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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    But... those thirty years had to have elapsed specifically in the period between when the orb appeared, and when we broke into Vanguard; that thirty year period is specifically from the perspective of Yyasulani, we're essentially putting the WoL on a seat right next to Namikka. Meaning that in the hypothetical posed by this thread, the WoL can't be at the Everkeep before it becomes part of Heritage Found, rather than the Unlost World, meaning that yes, the portal's there in this hypothetical.

    The way that the WoL theoretically could've gotten to the Everkeep pre-Heritage Found is if they instead went through the Skydeep gate, like Zoraal Ja did.
    During the 30 years yassoulani experienced that the source didn’t the everkeep and heritage found were one whole however they were in Alexandria’s shard; not the source. So yyasoulani, the everkeep and living memory (the 12th floor of the everkeep) were all in Alexandria’s shard during the 30 year period. In that time the everkeep doesn’t change, only yyasoulani does

    So if the WOL defeated zarool ja by being pulled into the dome by taking the first train Sphene couldn’t retreat to living memory because it’s all part of the same shard. The reason zarool ja used the skydeep portal to find Sphene was because before the dome appeared skydeep’s gate was the only thing that connected the source to Alexandria’s shard

    So if the WOL took the first train it would have only benefited the WOL/scions as zarool ja wouldn’t have been able to invade and sphene wouldn’t have been able to retreat
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    During the 30 years yassoulani experienced that the source didn’t the everkeep and heritage found were one whole however they were in Alexandria’s shard; not the source. So yyasoulani, the everkeep and living memory (the 12th floor of the everkeep) were all in Alexandria’s shard during the 30 year period. In that time the everkeep doesn’t change, only yyasoulani does
    Can you provide a source for this? Because honestly that doesn't sound like anything I've seen, as well as sounding unnecessarily complicated as a plot beat; why write that Yyasulani got removed form the Source, merged with Alexandria and then plopped back down into the Source over the course of forty seconds of a cutscene, when it could instead just be 'Alexandria got grafted onto Yyasulani at the moment that a big lightning orb appeared around it'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Can you provide a source for this? Because honestly that doesn't sound like anything I've seen, as well as sounding unnecessarily complicated as a plot beat; why write that Yyasulani got removed form the Source, merged with Alexandria and then plopped back down into the Source over the course of forty seconds of a cutscene, when it could instead just be 'Alexandria got grafted onto Yyasulani at the moment that a big lightning orb appeared around it'?
    The key taking yyasoulani into Alexandria’s shard is precisely why the citizens of yyasoulani experienced 30 years of time passage the rest of the source did not

    It’s when vanguard is completed physically connecting the two that it forces yyasoulani back into the source

    If yyasoulani wasn’t in Alexandria’s shard it never would have experienced time dilation, the dome appearing is when the everkeep and yyasoulani fuse by sending it to Alexandria’s shard via the key
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess