When did the dev's stop reading the forums?

[CaptainLagbeard]

If you really think that Shadowbringers and Endwalker flopped then I'm not sure what to say. Even Dawntrail had more pre-orders than any prior expansion.

Aside from Final Fantasy XIV, almost everything they published was a massive flop and the few that weren't flops didn't really receive much attention at all..

A few highlights of how they're dumping money into a fire are
Forspoken
Babylon's Fall
Marvel's Avengers
Symbiogenesis

Also, the PS5 exclusivity for the FF7 remake's 2nd part and Final Fantasy XVI cost them a fuckton of sales as those weren't enough reason for people to buy the PS5.

And a few other project s they've put out that kinda fell off the face of the planet

Star Ocean The Divine Force
Tactics Ogre Reborn
Octopath Traveler 2
Valkyrie Elysium



I wouldn't be surprised if one of their most successful game releases in recent years that isn't 14 is the Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters...

[Oizen]

If you really think that Shadowbringers and Endwalker flopped then I'm not sure what to say. Even Dawntrail had more pre-orders than any prior expansion.

???
XIV is the outlier, SE as a whole has been doing abysmally lately.

I'm talking about shit like Marvel's Avengers, Balan's Wonderworld, FF7 First Soldier, Forespoken, Chocobo GP, Babylon's fall, Foamstars, and shit like their NFT game. Fuck thats not even all of them. Hell theres even evidence that FFXVI hasn't sold as well as they wanted with them rushing it to PC and promising all future FF games will day 1 launch on PC.

If you think this hasn't impacted the budget that XIV gets in some way then I dont know what to tell you, the money this game makes does not 100% go back into it.

[Shibi]

...there's a complete lack of moderation going on...

The moderation is there. A lot of posts have been deleted, and people have clearly been given posting holidays.

What you won't find is one side 'cancelled' (potentially against your P.O.V.), the moderators (which I believe are contractors) are trying to walk a line down the middle which is where most people sit.

[SongOfTheWind]

The moderation is there. A lot of posts have been deleted, and people have clearly been given posting holidays.

What you won't find is one side 'cancelled' (potentially against your P.O.V.), the moderators (which I believe are contractors) are trying to walk a line down the middle which is where most people sit.

I think in jp forums moderators tend to leave a note that a message was removed and a reason why. Here it happens silently for some reason, so people can only guess that it was done that way.

[CidHeiral]

Just because they don't comment "FEEDBACK RECEIVED THANK YOU CITIZEN" in every thread doesn't mean they're not reading them. For better or worse they act on feedback here all the time.

[mallleable]

I'm sure they absolutely read here after seeing a thread pop up about how the graphics update might affect dark-skinned characters, and then later seeing them address those concerns on stage at Tokyo FanFest. Also walking back on some planned VPR changes after the DPS section get spammed with requests to not ease up on positionals (granted they ended up removing the debuff, but whatever). I think they're just kinda picky about what feedback they find worth addressing for better or for worse.

[ZXN]

I am sure the devs read the threads from time to time, but it's most likely really only specific ones or ones that get a lot of attention, like the graphics update thread for example. The devs are most likely not going to want to look at the forums and read through a dozen different threads in each of the different languages that are just currently "Dawntrail bad, writers bad, devs bad" unless they WANT to see players roasting them. Can only really just hope if they do look at the forums that they actually take the feedback into consideration, but that's a BIIIIIG hope. As for moderation, it IS here, it's just a more passive "We'll take action if we absolutely have to" type of mindset it seems.

[Jeeqbit]

I am sure the devs read the threads from time to time, but it's most likely really only specific ones or ones that get a lot of attention, like the graphics update thread for example.

That but also it's more the community team's job to gather feedback and deliver it, especially given the language barriers.

As for moderation, it IS here, it's just a more passive "We'll take action if we absolutely have to" type of mindset it seems.

This is a good mindset, actually. I've seen forums over-moderated and it's not good. Most moderators just over-moderate things, so really pushing the limits of what they'll allow is good and allows real debates to happen. Because debates get heated sometimes but, sometimes this is necessary. As long as it doesn't stop being constructive or go off-topic. I know many people may think posts here aren't constructive sometimes, but often they can be if thought of from certain perspectives, so just letting posters push the limits a lot allows real and honest debates.

I think it's important to repeat this point because it's clearly how it works. GMs moderate in the game only when reported. They seem to do exactly the same on the forums.

[CKNovel]

100% sure they listen to the forum. They just don't interact with the community or apply every feedback.
I remember a lot of feedback from here that was included in the game with 7.0.

[klu]

If they're smart, they stay far the hell away from these boards.