Would you be okay with 8.0 having no new jobs in exchange for a total job overhaul?

[Exinias]

I'd give up any number of new jobs if they just gave back Noxious Gnash to viper and reverted major changes they've done to some other jobs.

Why would I want more new jobs if I don't get to enjoy them for a whole expansion and they are ruined after only 4 weeks?

As someone who mained smn in ShB and EW, loved DRK in ShB and started to love MNK in EW, it was depressing having the noxious gnashing removal after falling in love with VPR. I'm unsubscribed now until hopefully something meaningful happens to one of the above jobs, minus MNK. I'm scared to keep playing MNK because it keeps getting reworked every expansion so what's the point?

[LyraShu]

Screw new jobs, if they did an expansion solely to fix the hat issue for races, and fixed job balancing and "identity" then I would be all for it. Hellz, they could make us follow Hildabrand for all of 8.0 and, if those changes got made, I think I would be quite ok with it.

(slightly /s)

[lolnotacat]

8.0 Can just be called "2.5 years of fixing CBS3's screwups."

[Nav_Fae]

A lot of people share this sentiment, but I feel like many aren't fully considering the implications. Nothing in this game’s history—absolutely nothing—has improved because the content was scrapped or removed. We've seen a gradual reduction in content over time: from three new jobs down to two, from three new dungeons per patch to two, and now just one. We even lost field content in Endwalker, had no Deep Dungeon in Shadowbringers, and Bozja was prematurely abandoned. Not once has cutting content led to a better experience.

So, why is there this widespread belief that the game will somehow improve by having no new jobs? It won’t. Stop convincing yourselves that it would. Even if they did decide to skip new jobs, there's no guarantee that the resources saved would be used to improve existing ones. They could just as easily be diverted to other areas, like enhancing the Trust system or something else entirely. We have no way of knowing where that freed-up capacity would go.

Let's be clear: by accepting less content, we’re essentially permitting Square Enix to offer us a diminished experience. We shouldn’t settle for less. Demand better, not less.

[Kes13a]

A lot of people share this sentiment, but I feel like many aren't fully considering the implications. Nothing in this game’s history—absolutely nothing—has improved because the content was scrapped or removed. We've seen a gradual reduction in content over time: from three new jobs down to two, from three new dungeons per patch to two, and now just one. We even lost field content in Endwalker, had no Deep Dungeon in Shadowbringers, and Bozja was prematurely abandoned. Not once has cutting content led to a better experience.

So, why is there this widespread belief that the game will somehow improve by having no new jobs? It won’t. Stop convincing yourselves that it would. Even if they did decide to skip new jobs, there's no guarantee that the resources saved would be used to improve existing ones. They could just as easily be diverted to other areas, like enhancing the Trust system or something else entirely. We have no way of knowing where that freed-up capacity would go.

Let's be clear: by accepting less content, we’re essentially permitting Square Enix to offer us a diminished experience. We shouldn’t settle for less. Demand better, not less.

and by accepting new garbage jobs... thats a better solution?

no, scrap new jobs and FIX WHAT WE HAVE. why is it impossible for people to accept QUALITY over more mindless garbage just because its "a new job"?

[Nav_Fae]

and by accepting new garbage jobs... thats a better solution?

no, scrap new jobs and FIX WHAT WE HAVE. why is it impossible for people to accept QUALITY over more mindless garbage just because its "a new job"?

I'd rather have "garbage" new jobs than end up with no new jobs and still have trash job design. Did you even read my post? There’s absolutely no guarantee that skipping new jobs would magically improve the existing ones. Those resources could easily be funneled into some completely unrelated part of the game. So, what do we get? Crappy jobs and no new ones. No thanks—I'd rather take the new jobs.

Let’s get one thing straight: cutting content has never fixed anything in this game. Nothing. So, stop acting like it's okay for Square Enix to give us less. Summoner isn't suddenly going to be fun just because we didn't get a new job. That’s not how this works. The community does not get to decide how resources are spent.

[Laerune]

Square is no indie company, they can do both.

[Mecia]

Yes i would.

Anyway, i would exchange both for an increased tick rate.

[Chasingstars]

Really the only new job from 8.0 should be a Physical Ranged one. With the rest of the work going into giving old jobs a more solid identity for gameplay.

[Ayalu]

They should stop adding jobs for now.
They need to fix what's already there instead of adding more and more bloat.

Classes decay and lose their identity, and that's a common complaint.

So yes, focus on class updates and alternative progression, whatever that may be.

As an added benefit, if they can't rely on new jobs as a marketing tool, they'll have to be a bit more creative.
Of course, a substantial update in itself can be a good marketing point