Frontlines over coordination Issues

[IDontPetLalas]

I'd suggest part of it is simply practice. Some of these premades are effectively statics. They play together a lot, develop a common cadence, understand the strategy they will employ, and stack in a specific way. I guess it's possible you occasionally queue in and find 3 players you know well on your team, and you switch jobs to create a pseudo-premade, but if that happens more than 1 match in a 100 I'd be surprised.

As to voice, again it's familiarity with using it in a static. And anything that frees up your fingers is powerful IMO. Moreover, on Aether we're now seeing "silent premades" who coordinate burst via voice and don't even bother to involve their "team-mates" at all. No shotcalls, just the four of them moving in harmony.

The efficacy is also revealed by commanders following the Olivia model who play as DRK shotcaller in a premade. If commanding solo was as effective, I'd imagine more of these commanders would do it. Instead they tell us they are the only competent players on the field. Thus they have to play as a premade because they can't trust the "idiots."

The response immediately before this one is a classic illustration of that precise point. Really nice "community," huh?

Interesting enough I was in a match recently where the "idiots" self- organized and managed to win the match. Our team didn't have a single tank, and was mostly ranged. If I remember correctly, the whole alliance had one tank - a WAR, whereas at least one of the other alliances had a few DRKs , ASTs, and a couple of DRGs. In our alliance, one person self-designated as the commander and called out a few key commands. Was a a very enjoyable win. Would we have won against a very strong pre-made? Most likely not, however while I agree that there are some people who are lost in FL, categorizing everyone as "idiots" aside from a few known friends is contemptible.

[Mawlzy]

Interesting enough I was in a match recently where the "idiots" self- organized and managed to win the match. Our team didn't have a single tank, and was mostly ranged. If I remember correctly, the whole alliance had one tank - a WAR, whereas at least one of the other alliances had a few DRKs , ASTs, and a couple of DRGs. In our alliance, one person self-designated as the commander and called out a few key commands. Was a a very enjoyable win. Would we have won against a very strong pre-made? Most likely not, however while I agree that there are some people who are lost in FL, categorizing everyone as "idiots" aside from a few known friends is contemptible.

It is indeed, and it's also extremely off-putting to anyone trying to get better who joins a PvP Discord server and discovers how they are perceived by that community.