Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
Isn't the issue primarily one of whether the current job skills produce a required level of coordination for max win-rate that is healthy/enjoyable?
This thread was supposed to be bait. The OP of this thread put "over coordination" in the title to bait people into clicking on it. Nobody is going, "oh no, my team is working together too well". I responded to the person I did because I think they are being genuine but who knows, maybe their Fisher is a higher level than OP's and I took the bait. They were talking about jobs working together and the thread title claims to be about coordination so that's what I focused on. "Do these skills when comboed together make the game fun?" is a different question than "Are people working together too much?".

Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
If you take the approach that win-rate is everything, you form a premade with a meta stack and coordinate. Those who do just that mostly conclude this highly-coordinated approach is jolly good, whereas the rest of us mostly find it tedious.
If too much coordination is bad then I would ask you the same question I asked the person I responded to: what is an appropriate level of coordination? Let's assume anything a premade can do, solo q-ers working together can do as well.

Quote Originally Posted by Histrio View Post
Over coordination is when both alliances are ganging up to one alliance(usually with the lowest point), and pointing that out will get you kicked out! It happened to me.
Pinching another team is normal. Ideally it should be 2nd place and 3rd place pinching 1st place but any team can be a victim of it. It is definitely frustrating when you're in 3rd place and it happens to you but there are many reasons that it can occur. Sometimes it's coordinated, like 2nd place needs to farm 3rd place for BH before they can fight 1st place. Sometimes it happens because 2nd place is either colorblind or can't read a scoreboard to save their lives (no coordination). Doesn't make it suck any less though.