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    We Have Sin Eaters and Voidsent, but could there be others?

    So a random topic came to mind while discussing lore with my FC. We we talking about what shard Alexandria might come from, with the 12th and the 9th being the most probable. We also know that the 12th was rejoined in a lightning calamity. But what if it wasn't rejoined? What if it met a similar fate to the 13th and the 1st? What would become of its denizens?

    With a flood of Darkness, the inhabitants of the 13th became what we call Voidsent. Similarly, the inhabitants of the 1st became Sin Eaters with a flood of Light. But what of the other elements? Like a flood of Lightning. After some thought, my FC mates and I settled on Surge Protectors as a name. It's punny sure, but it plays into the whole event of the Storm Surge, and the idea of electrical devices.

    So I'm curious what others think an appropriate name might be for the creatures created from each flood. Does Surge Protectors sound good? Or is it too penny?

    I'll try and think of names for the other elements too.

    Edit: I though of an interesting name for Wind creatures, Breathless. It may sound odd at first, but what is another term for breathless, winded, lol.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 08-20-2024 at 04:23 AM.
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    First off, we were told the amount of Rejoinings that have occurred and the status of the First and Thirteenth as being special by multiple sources including Hydaelyn and Elidibus, so I don't know why they would all lie about it.

    The Lightning Calamity also doesn't match the timeline because that would've been many thousands of years ago, older than even the Allagan Empire. Even if you take into account time weirdness, that still doesn't add up in the timeline we were told and the amount of bending the timeline that would have to occur to have that all match up would be particularly egregious. The Milala left the Source to Alexandria's reflection thousands of years AFTER the Calamity of Lightning but arrived in Alexandria's shard BEFORE their lightning problem started.

    The most likely case is that it's just another shard that hasn't been Rejoined. There are more elements than there are shards so they were bound to double-up on them eventually. Either way, looks like the lightning is somehow over in post-MSQ Living Memory, which is their shard and there's lightning somehow under the dome on the Source with no explanation how that works. But we'll probably find out in the patches.
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    I dunno, I feel like Light and Shadow are unique among the elements in that their presence directly affects how other types of aether flow.

    Light is stagnation, so it turns life into pure white, unchanging, unemotional beings. As Light spreads, it slows down the flow of aether, turning into more Light that progresses the stagnation.
    Shadow is liberation, so it turns life into chaotic beings with transient forms. Aether liberated by Shadow is easily manipulated by voidsent, allowing the creation of more voidsent.

    I just don't really see that happening with other elements, unless you count how being over-tempered turns you into a weird corrupted elemental creature apparently, though this was never really explored in any significant capacity in-game. We also don't know of any Light/Shadow primals other than Big Blue Crystal and He Who Eats Babies, which also makes the two types stand out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    First off, we were told the amount of Rejoinings that have occurred and the status of the First and Thirteenth as being special by multiple sources including Hydaelyn and Elidibus, so I don't know why they would all lie about it.

    The Lightning Calamity also doesn't match the timeline because that would've been many thousands of years ago, older than even the Allagan Empire. Even if you take into account time weirdness, that still doesn't add up in the timeline we were told and the amount of bending the timeline that would have to occur to have that all match up would be particularly egregious. The Milala left the Source to Alexandria's reflection thousands of years AFTER the Calamity of Lightning but arrived in Alexandria's shard BEFORE their lightning problem started.

    The most likely case is that it's just another shard that hasn't been Rejoined. There are more elements than there are shards so they were bound to double-up on them eventually. Either way, looks like the lightning is somehow over in post-MSQ Living Memory, which is their shard and there's lightning somehow under the dome on the Source with no explanation how that works. But we'll probably find out in the patches.
    I feel like you missed the main point of the thread.
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    We actually kinda have seen similar, with people who get tempered so hard by a singular-element primal that they transform. The sea monster pirates in Sastasha Hard probably most notably. It's kinda hard to tell how much of that was Leviathan's influence versus just how getting over-watered affects someone, though.
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    Yeah, the "drowned" are the closest things we have to other elemental aether corrupted beasts, but at a much lesser degree than voidsent or sin eaters. We also see zombies imbued by the corrupted crystals in Pharos Sirius and the overaspected.... things from the Tower of Babil. Clearly aether corruption isn't the only thing needing to happen to make aether beings like voidsent and sin eaters.
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    Given our experiences in Heritage Found, and Alexandria, I imagine a lightning-flooded beings would would end up being somewhat biomechanical. One's coporeal aether could undergo aetherochemical changes as it's exposed to high amounts of lightning aether before their soul fully converts into lightning energy to now power the newly-formed being with their memories now etched as circuitry.

    A fire-flooded being would likely not exist for very long as they would probably just burn up, and explode.

    Earth-flooded beings could seemingly turn into statues, and become part of the planet, but over time as geological activity persists within them could violently 'come back to life' causing earthquakes, and other volcanic activity.

    Ice-flooded beings could probably be a mix between voidsent, and sineaters, and embody entropy as they try to indiscriminately snuff out any high energy aether sources to maintain equilibrium.

    Wind-flooded being could be like ghosts. I like your 'Brethless' name.

    Water-flooded beings would probably just resemble fish, and other aquatic life with the worst cases turning into crabs.

    Lotsa body horror!
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    Considering how the lighting over-aspected boy was paralyzed, I wouldn't be surprised if lightning-flooded beings are like you describe the earthen ones, incapable of moving and may as well be statues. I am quite sure howver, that they would not be part technological. All the cicuity on usable electrope is Human-made, not natural occurance. The circuitry, based on Arcanist magic circles, is what Humans etched into the natural stone.
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    Id say we get a good glimpse of that when Levitan transforms those Pirates into Davy Jones crew lol
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    Heartless, Nobodies... Unversed.
    Not hating OP's idea, I'm just having feeling that we have been through this.
    It's whatever.
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