Why don't they just make Eukrasian Dyskrasia spread Eukrasian Dosis?

[Iedarus]

Considering E Dyskrasia is only a gain on 4 and there's so much frustration with accidentally overwriting/overlapping dots when pulling packs, it would feel less clunky and more fun to use if it just spread E Dosis similar to Bane but on a GCD. You'd save a GCD spreading Dosis to 3+ targets so it'd be significantly less niche.

[Carighan]

Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!

[Supersnow845]

Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!

I’d much rather the bane idea because e dyskrasia is deceptively weak and SGE is crying out for literally any kit interaction

How can you lose in kit interaction to literally the only class in tje game that has dys synergy

[Iedarus]

Would also love to see double dots back, but since we're likely not getting it, turning it into GCD Bane is basically the next best thing as dot overlap is another issue that players can run into.

Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!

Doesn't change the fact that it's still annoying to deal with. No one likes playing with a gimped kit even in casual content. E Dyskrasia is only a gain on 4, anyway, so there are still times where E Dosis is better when pulling packs. Turning it into a Bane (maybe also in the hopes of getting E Phlegma in the future for that Miasma II gameplay) would make it less clunky and more fun to use. My reason for taking more than one cast instead of one?

Fun. That's literally it. Players are so obsessed with things being as accessible and streamlined as possible that any friction that requires brainpower to overcome is seen as a bad thing. It's called gameplay.

[VictorSpoils]

Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!

This is one of the only scenarios where the AoE DoT is usable, where it barely gets use because you're single-dotting everything one-by-one during pulls because they're spread out by default. It's not a problem if the DoTs stack, but they do not.

[Carighan]

/shrug

It's just a single target and an AoE DoT. It's not rocket science. We got a single and an AoE nuke, too. Which conveniently, intuitively and expectedly turn into the single and AoE DoT with Eukrasia.

It'd be quite unintuitive if one turned into a Bane instead of the AoE variant of the other. Might as well make our group shield work like Deployment Tactics while you're at it? Kerachole just spreads Taurochole's buff? Pneuma is used after Dosis to spread instant healing from the target of the Dosis-Kardia effect?

(what I'm trying to say is, Bane as a concept is utterly unintuitive for a game that has Single-vs-AoE variants for the vast vast vast majority of abilities. Just do the simple thing. Which the devs did.)

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I got a (IMHO) better solution: revert back to media tour build where they allow stacking of both DoT.

Clearly whoever green lighted the stacking limitation probably never run together with tanks while slapping their instant DoTs one by one through the enmity table/tab targeting.

[Supersnow845]

I got a (IMHO) better solution: revert back to media tour build where they allow stacking of both DoT.

Clearly whoever green lighted the stacking limitation probably never run together with tanks while slapping their instant DoTs one by one through the enmity table/tab targeting.

Yeah that’s the problem, E dys is near useless in this game because the game has already encouraged you for 70 levels to run and dot as you run

The more you dot as you run the greater the loss even pressing E dys is

[Carighan]

I got a (IMHO) better solution: revert back to media tour build where they allow stacking of both DoT.

Clearly whoever green lighted the stacking limitation probably never run together with tanks while slapping their instant DoTs one by one through the enmity table/tab targeting.

But that's also just meaningless busywork then. Do they get side-benefits from doctors so inducing extra RSI from people having to tab-target ED is relevant to them?

If the idea is to deal more damage via stacked DoTs, just have two AoE DoTs. That is, don't go for a needlessly complicated solution that requires 0 extra brain to execute and just needs more hand motions, we're not getting paid per person with Carpal Tunnel. If you want more AoE DoT, just add AoE DoT. Don't make things more complicated than they need to be.

So here's my solution:

* Keep ED as is.
* Change EDys to deal the exact same per-tick damage as ED.

Done. Simple solutions to trivial issues.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

But that's also just meaningless busywork then. Do they get side-benefits from doctors so inducing extra RSI from people having to tab-target ED is relevant to them?

If the idea is to deal more damage via stacked DoTs, just have two AoE DoTs. That is, don't go for a needlessly complicated solution that requires 0 extra brain to execute and just needs more hand motions, we're not getting paid per person with Carpal Tunnel. If you want more AoE DoT, just add AoE DoT. Don't make things more complicated than they need to be.

So here's my solution:

* Keep ED as is.
* Change EDys to deal the exact same per-tick damage as ED.

Done. Simple solutions to trivial issues.

I mean, if the goal is to reduce the nuance, well sure that would work. Not that I would agree to have though. E.Dyskrasia is already a dead button on ST cases and I'd rather not reinforce more of those. I would love to have more cases where I'm incentivized to press my AoE (read: not Glaroilficosis) button in supposedly strictly ST situations.

Reintroducing the media tour build wouldn't only solve OP's frustration over accidentally overwriting DoT, it will also open up more opportunities to use E.Dyskrasia both dungeon and raid situations.