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    I'm pretty sure Yoshida made a correction that the improved encounters are coming in 7.2, not in 7.0.

    We'll probably see by the 2nd tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I'm pretty sure Yoshida made a correction that the improved encounters are coming in 7.2, not in 7.0.

    We'll probably see by the 2nd tier.
    Wait, what? For sure I missed that part, then.

    But that's so odd... why wait until nearly halfway through the expansion cycle to introduce this kind of thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Wait, what? For sure I missed that part, then.

    But that's so odd... why wait until nearly halfway through the expansion cycle to introduce this kind of thing?
    Maybe they want people to get accustomed to the new jobs first? Not that much changed with the jobs, but it's normal that they make the start of the expansion easier to on-board new players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Maybe they want people to get accustomed to the new jobs first? Not that much changed with the jobs, but it's normal that they make the start of the expansion easier to on-board new players.
    Then why did they panic change monk and viper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Then why did they panic change monk and viper.
    Because, at least for Viper, Square Enix obviously had pretty much no confidence in their product. It was reworked not even a week after release.
    As for Monk, I cannot say. Guess the 4 people that work on classes are either overworked, creatively bankrupt, sick of the 120s mold, or any combination of those.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Because, at least for Viper, Square Enix obviously had pretty much no confidence in their product. It was reworked not even a week after release.
    As for Monk, I cannot say. Guess the 4 people that work on classes are either overworked, creatively bankrupt, sick of the 120s mold, or any combination of those.
    To be fair I don’t blame them for VPR

    Actually what is the classes identity?- gotta go fast?

    We aren’t playing sonic here
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    To be fair I don’t blame them for VPR

    Actually what is the classes identity?- gotta go fast?

    We aren’t playing sonic here
    But the speed of the class is something that is fun. We have so many classes with a higher GCD, Viper feels like a breath of fresh air. Its fine if the classes GCD speed distinguishes itself already.
    Also, thematically, zigzagging around the enemy like a snake, applying poisons to wither down enemies. Gameplay wise, upkeep your buffs and a debuff and plan ahead as to when to use what.

    I very much blame them for what they did to Viper, though. The class barely had a month for people to learn and get used to it before it became neutered, despite Yoshi-P's understanding that oversimplification of existing classes are a net negative, in an interview months ago.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    why wait until nearly halfway through the expansion cycle to introduce this kind of thing?
    The new encounter design includes the current savage fights, but there is some context:

    The first tier is always intentionally easier to account for people adjusting to job changes, new rotations and new players. Then they make it tougher as people are used to the new expansion's gimmicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    new expansion's gimmicks.
    They legit copied p8s and p4s multiple times eksdee. Curtain call is new expansion gimmick
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    The snore Yoship was talking about at fanfest was casual content such as dungeons. IIRC he said people were falling asleep in endwalker dubgeons.

    Dawntrail casual content seems to have improved from the snore that were endwalker encounters.
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