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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    why wait until nearly halfway through the expansion cycle to introduce this kind of thing?
    The new encounter design includes the current savage fights, but there is some context:

    The first tier is always intentionally easier to account for people adjusting to job changes, new rotations and new players. Then they make it tougher as people are used to the new expansion's gimmicks.
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    new expansion's gimmicks.
    They legit copied p8s and p4s multiple times eksdee. Curtain call is new expansion gimmick
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    Player Rekh's Avatar
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    The snore Yoship was talking about at fanfest was casual content such as dungeons. IIRC he said people were falling asleep in endwalker dubgeons.

    Dawntrail casual content seems to have improved from the snore that were endwalker encounters.
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    Arome Framboise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Wait, what? For sure I missed that part, then.

    But that's so odd... why wait until nearly halfway through the expansion cycle to introduce this kind of thing?
    first tier, they cant take too many risks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I'm pretty sure Yoshida made a correction that the improved encounters are coming in 7.2, not in 7.0.

    We'll probably see by the 2nd tier.
    No that was a mistranslation

    The new encounter design is from 7.0 the job changes are for 8.0 but was mistranslated as actually starting in 7.2, that’s where the 7.2 figure comes from
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    No that was a mistranslation

    The new encounter design is from 7.0 the job changes are for 8.0 but was mistranslated as actually starting in 7.2, that’s where the 7.2 figure comes from
    There's been a lot of conflicting information on it, I don't think Yoshida has clarified anything on the matter either, aside from just saying that 7.2 will not contain job reworks.

    I'd personally just wait and see if 7.2 changes anything much, 7.0 encounters were generally well received, so hopefully they'll put together something nice and not act on the feedback that the content is too hard now.

    Would be pretty nice if they could bring back unique mechanics, but I fear that people will whine if they bring back something like Digititis with the forced damage down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I'm pretty sure Yoshida made a correction that the improved encounters are coming in 7.2, not in 7.0.

    We'll probably see by the 2nd tier.

    Now you won't be fighting on big Square Arenas but in Circular ones.
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    I dont know how many times people need to say it, but play a game for what it is NOW, not for what the dev says it will be in the future. If you're not enjoying it, why are you playing?
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    Malia Tri'el
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    I don't remember which media tour interview it was, but they did kinda give some vague hints of the thought process for 'different' fights which they mentioned the possibility of using emotes to resolve a mechanic. I'm not expecting a whole lot, but we'll probably see some weird stuff like that in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    I don't remember which media tour interview it was, but they did kinda give some vague hints of the thought process for 'different' fights which they mentioned the possibility of using emotes to resolve a mechanic. I'm not expecting a whole lot, but we'll probably see some weird stuff like that in the future.
    That won't be new, we kinda had that back in 2.xx. Anyone remember /comfort ?

    Recently I'm lvling MCH on my alt, and going through the 2.xx content again kinda remind me there is a LOT of things back then if say ... remastered, probably would be quite refreshing. For all its flaws, 2.xx was quite varied in its design comparing to the rigid formula of the expansion.
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