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  1. #51
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    IvoryHawk's Avatar
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    Ivory Hawk
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    Omega
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyvex View Post
    All my side Jobs sitting at 90, being neglected like the middle children...

    Leveling is such a repetitive pain and unsatisfying grind, that burns out any sane mind... Why not make it a little more interesting and rewarding?

    My proposal:
    Make Ultimates give an ungodly amount of exp. Specifically make them give perfectly enough exp to bump you +10 levels from the Ultimate's original level.

    So UwU and UCoB push you from 70-80,
    TEA from 80-90,
    DSR and TOP from 90-100.

    That way there is actual incentive to do it and to learn other jobs.
    It would reward being good at the game, increase job diversity as more people would actually learn more jobs and cause an outrage among casuals for everyone to enjoy. No downsides.

    What do you think? Make this post blow up or be forgotten... Whatever it shall be, SqEx ignores it anyway...... UNLESS?

    Edit: Let me add, that ofc u have to be gatekept somehow, otherwise this wouldn't be ffxiv! So to unlock the exp feature on a patch n.1 / n.3 ultimate you will have to finish the n+1.0 patch MSQ
    way too many "casual" players that'd bitch and moan about this, they complained about an axolotl mount for gods sake...
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  2. #52
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IvoryHawk View Post
    way too many "casual" players that'd bitch and moan about this, they complained about an axolotl mount for gods sake...
    Tbf, I'm working through savage and I think they dropped the ball with the axolotl mount lol. Would have made a better island sanctuary mount imo.
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  3. #53
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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Character
    Omori Oatmeal
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    I don't know GW2 very well (I tried it out for a few weeks, wasn't terribly impressed, haven't touched it since), but in WoW, the endgame is the main focus and leveling is just the time sink to get to it. In FFXIV, the story is the main focus, so leveling faster doesn't really matter much unless you also buy a story skip, because the story is gonna gate the content anyway.
    The story is the main focus but it not like we get to experience it and get msq exp with more than like, 2 classes at best for each xpac. I don't mind leveling like, 2 classes with the story, since the MSQ xp is fine and make you progress, well, with the story. But when it time to level the like, 16 others classes in the game you basicly just have dailies and after that the xp gain is painfully slow.
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  4. #54
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    Uncle_Jafar's Avatar
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    Ornstein Smough
    World
    Kraken
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    why do you have to level all the jobs right away? The next expansion comes out in two years.
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  5. #55
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    CVXIV's Avatar
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    Character
    Cyrus Vincere
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    It'll be much quicker once the new field operation is released
    Someone else already went over the different ways to quickly level, so I won't go into too much depth there
    Running Aglaia nonstop though is very tedious, but I've only done that a handful of times
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  6. #56
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    Sivante's Avatar
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    Sivante Si'akea
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Ultimates giving EXP is one thing, but them giving +10 of their unlock level is completely broken, at the very most I would have them give 3/4 a bar of a level.

    Most people aren't going to be incentivized to learn an entire ultimate for the sake of levelling a job.
    Wait, what? Your statements conflict. If most people won't do an ultimate to level, why is +10 broken then? If they only get 3/4 of a bar like you say yeah they wouldn't be incentivized. Which statement are you trying to lean on here?
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  7. #57
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sivante View Post
    Wait, what? Your statements conflict. If most people won't do an ultimate to level, why is +10 broken then? If they only get 3/4 of a bar like you say yeah they wouldn't be incentivized. Which statement are you trying to lean on here?
    They don't conflict.

    Players that don't do ultimate won't be incentivized, but this does not detract from how broken a levelling method it would be for those that do the content and have learned that content, as you would effectively be giving people 10 levels worth of level-relevant exp for those that engage in that specific content. I am not averse to ultimates granting exp, just the rate of EXP that OP proposes.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 08-20-2024 at 04:01 AM.

  8. #58
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    Ardeth's Avatar
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    Ul Dah
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    Character
    Peter Redhill
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    My only issue is I really don't want to spam roulettes anymore, and that's kinda the easiest way. It's just that after 11 years, I just don't want to anymore.

    It's not as bad in EW. In EW, it felt like getting to 85 was a chore. After that was much easier, but getting past 85 made me want to stop doing it a few times. But I haven't had any issues from 90 to 100 besides general boredom and the woes of leveling up in synced combat, so your class never changes. But that's more an issue with the game in general rather than a complaint towards the leveling experience.
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  9. #59
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    Antharaes's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Thaelyn Arryn
    World
    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Frontline gives almost half xp bar, plus the tomes. Not bad for not even 20 minutes a day.
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