Tank Endurance Idea

[AlexandraFreya]

please dont ever make suggestions about job balance again

Had me scared for a moment there, but then I realized when I post the thread I didn't get the message "Waiting for approval from Collin_sky" So I should be good I think.

That being said, It would appear that tanks don't like the idea since it make them rely too much on Healers to be able to stay alive and Healers don't like it cause they want to heal Health and not Endurance....so...no one wins.
Fair enough, It was just a random idea but I understand that it's senseless to run an idea that both sides are unhappy on.

[AmiableApkallu]

Soo...put you down for a no then?
(Also..there was nicer ways to say you didn't like the idea)

Eh? It's a fantastic idea, actually. You've essentially described how HP ought to work -- and actually does work in the levels before tanks get their gobs and gobs of self-healing and party-healing.

And therein lies the problem. There's nothing stopping endurance going the same way HP did -- that one specific ability to restore it will eventually become two, then three, then potency crept, etc. etc.

[AlexandraFreya]

Eh? It's a fantastic idea, actually. You've essentially described how HP ought to work -- and actually does work in the levels before tanks get their gobs and gobs of self-healing and party-healing.

And therein lies the problem. There's nothing stopping endurance going the same way HP did -- that one specific ability to restore it will eventually become two, then three, then potency crept, etc. etc.

I can see how the idea could just be kicking the can down the street type thing, though I could come back in 3 years and suggest "Tank spirit!" "Tanks endurance healing effect now cost spirit and this time 100% healers are the only one to can restore spirit"
Also just encase that wasn't clear
/s

[Chiru_Kai]

This ability would be kinda fun if it's exclusive to invulnerability.

Say that a tank's invulnerability skill is locked when in dungeons/raids, and it has to be unlocked by a healer using a role skill on the tank(s), giving a specific buff required to become invulnerable.
Also means that any invuln uses are controlled by the healer, no more that classic jumpscare of "omg this GNB dropped from full HP down to 1 right after I used Benediction already".


Also... the way how you describe it is kinda... counterproductive to the goal?
Why would you give tanks a unique resource in order to use tank skills... claiming that you would need healers to provide that resource... but then also give tanks a way to acquire that resource without healers?
Still means that healers are optional as tanks can just gain the resources themselves.

[NegativeS]

I feel like this would be a novel concept for a new tank, but wedging it into existing ones probably isn't ideal.