Weapon type for a Magick/Mystic Knight

[Tsiron]

Don't expect any theorycrafting, this will basically just be about visuals (which begs the question, why post it at all? Well... why not?)

With the addition of VPR, I'd say we've (unfortunately) exhausted more conventional types of swords, and while there's nothing stopping the devs from giving this Job a mace or hammer (I'd rather that went to a melee Healer, though. A Cleric or some such), you can't really call a "spellblade" that if there's no blade involved, can you? So the type of weapon I'm thinking of is... a pata*! More commonly referred to as a "gauntlet sword"!


Sketch I drew of how one such Magick/Mystic Knight might look

Here's a video on their history and use, for anyone curious! As far as video game examples go, the one that comes to mind to me personally is Raziel, from Legacy of Kain, though there's probably others! Dark Zealots from Starcraft, maybe? I think there's potential for some cool animations with the big, sweeping motions demonstrated (funnily enough) in both videos and, since weapon enchantment is a staple of this class (r-right...?), I gave that some thought as well. At least... as far a casting animation goes...



Personally I'd make it a DPS, so that it doesn't step on either PLD or DRK's toes as a third (fourth, if you count GNB) "magic swordsman" Tank, that uses Maiming gear, to distinguish it from both RDM and SAM.

That's... about it. Nothing substantial, really, but I figured I'd share regardless.

*I'm aware there are MNK weapons using the term, though only one model (and its variants) even remotely resembles the real weapon. That shouldn't be an issue given RPR exists despite scythes being available to a slew of other Jobs previously, I don't think, and the fact it would be a single, much larger, weapon used in a completely different fashion ought to make it distinct enough, I reckon.

[lolnotacat]

I liked Alisae's glowy sword that she summoned from her book before she became a RDM.

[Tsiron]

I did consider legally distinct lightsabers (there's Allagan constructs that use some) at one point, but ultimately I felt that would've still been too close to existing Jobs, especially since you can sort of get weapons of that type (i.e. Padjali, Kinna, Empyrean) already

[CVXIV]

spectrobes moment

I honestly really like the design of those weapons, and it's not something I had considered. While I enjoy red mage, I cannot deny that I would very much want/enjoy mage knight as a concept.

Battlemages are always something I enjoy in video games, versus your standard mage.


to add, I think maiming would be best for the gear so that it can still wear heavy armor since iirc maiming sets resemble fending a lot, so it can still have the identity of having that bulkier plate armor on top of using their spells

[ovIm]

Not gonna lie, that art is damn awesome! If you drew that, Tsiron: amazing work, looks dope!

As for Patas, since some Monk weapons are more Katar Daggers than Patas, I think the concept would get a pass. Looks great nonetheless.

[lolnotacat]

The frills in the neck and the poofy clothes remind me of Landsknecht. They were famous for using Arquebus and Spears. Maybe a combined magic version similar to a gunblade?

[Tsiron]

spectrobes moment

I honestly really like the design of those weapons, and it's not something I had considered. While I enjoy red mage, I cannot deny that I would very much want/enjoy mage knight as a concept.

Battlemages are always something I enjoy in video games, versus your standard mage.


to add, I think maiming would be best for the gear so that it can still wear heavy armor since iirc maiming sets resemble fending a lot, so it can still have the identity of having that bulkier plate armor on top of using their spells

Oh, first I hear of Spectrobes, but it definitely looks to be the kind of weapon I'm talking about, yeah! Much as I wish there was room for a proper 2H longsword Job, I think the devs would struggle to make it (not to mention its weapons) distinct from existing ones, so going for something more obscure felt appropriate!

You and me both... There's a handful of Jobs that fulfill the basic requirements (melee+magic) like RDM, PLD, even SAM, but... none of them hit the exact concept of a "mage knight" for me either, so I think there's definitely still room for one!

Not gonna lie, that art is damn awesome! If you drew that, Tsiron: amazing work, looks dope!

As for Patas, since some Monk weapons are more Katar Daggers than Patas, I think the concept would get a pass. Looks great nonetheless.

I did draw it, thank you!

The MNK weapons I'm thinking of (Martial Patas) are definitely on the longer side, but... yeah, I don't think it would be particularly hard to make this hypothetical Job's weapons distinct, especially since these are the only 'proper' patas MNK ever got

The frills in the neck and the poofy clothes remind me of Landsknecht. They were famous for using Arquebus and Spears. Maybe a combined magic version similar to a gunblade?

The outfit definitely owes them some of its inspiration, yeah! I wanted something that looked lavish, and the stuff the Landsknecht wore definitely fit the descriptor. As for the weapon... you're thinking of something like what Nael van Darnus used? I wonder if they'd be able to distinguish it from DRG (or RPR, albeit to a lesser extent), especially if we're sticking to my idea of it being a Maiming DPS

[CVXIV]

Oh, first I hear of Spectrobes, but it definitely looks to be the kind of weapon I'm talking about, yeah! Much as I wish there was room for a proper 2H longsword Job, I think the devs would struggle to make it (not to mention its weapons) distinct from existing ones, so going for something more obscure felt appropriate!

You and me both... There's a handful of Jobs that fulfill the basic requirements (melee+magic) like RDM, PLD, even SAM, but... none of them hit the exact concept of a "mage knight" for me either, so I think there's definitely still room for one!



I did draw it, thank you!

The MNK weapons I'm thinking of (Martial Patas) are definitely on the longer side, but... yeah, I don't think it would be particularly hard to make this hypothetical Job's weapons distinct, especially since these are the only 'proper' patas MNK ever got

Initially I was going to mention Edward Elric, since he does something similar for his arm but I figured that'd be too easy so I went with spectrobes instead

I agree, for me RDM doesn't necessarily scratch that same itch for my ideal mage knight. Sure, you have swordplay and magic, but it isn't really the same thing to me. I think typically they use one handed swords and enchant them with black magic, so the patas would be pretty unique weapons in that respect and still keep that sort of identity

[lolnotacat]

The outfit definitely owes them some of its inspiration, yeah! I wanted something that looked lavish, and the stuff the Landsknecht wore definitely fit the descriptor. As for the weapon... you're thinking of something like what Nael van Darnus used? I wonder if they'd be able to distinguish it from DRG (or RPR, albeit to a lesser extent), especially if we're sticking to my idea of it being a Maiming DPS

Differentiating would be tough. But maybe flip things on their head a little, where the Arquebus is the main weapon and the lance is secondary. This would be a contrast to the gunblade where the Sword is the primary part of the design with the gun secondary. Then there could be more focus on the magic Shells that are imparted with enchantments/runes.

[Syln]

How about some trinket that is used to materialized different weapons depending on your attack ?