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    Quote Originally Posted by NefarioCall View Post
    ..and SE will never be that kind of stock. Just the same way that a steel manufacturing company that makes the car parts will never be the car company itself. They're completely different. So ... no ... this isn't a golden opportunity like those... but i have a hard time finding any reason to think that the stock value will drop further than it has ... and then, even if 2.0 isn't a wild success, SE is the kind of company stable enough that over 5 years, it should be able to pick up the pieces.



    While a quality product does not always lead to success, it is an important factor. I suppose you could always 'wait it out' and see what the general reaction to Beta is through the end of 2012. I mean, if SE isn't going to fold, they also aren't going to make the full gains they could make back by the end of this calendar year. You might end up being able to buy lower into a company that will still come back, or you end up buying a little higher and making a smaller profit margin when you sell.
    There is always a chance the stock could drop. If 2.0 fails they will have invested a lot of money and not be able to recoup. If Versus is not released it could also cause a drop. FF titles are the flagship for SE, if the FF titles take a hit so will the stocks. To put in perspective, consider the losses that would be caused by a FFXIV 2.0 complete failure. The costs of development and hardware alone would be significant. That being said SE could still rebound from such an incident. If you believe in it...then get some skin in the game.

    Yes this is certainly not a situation like the auto companies, but I always respect someone who is willing to put there money where their mouth is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lstkaws View Post
    To put in perspective, consider the losses that would be caused by a FFXIV 2.0 complete failure. The costs of development and hardware alone would be significant. That being said SE could still rebound from such an incident. If you believe in it...than get some skin in the game.
    I suppose my thoughts are EXACTLY this. Though there is no proof that SE could rebound from a 2.0 failure, let us say that they can. Of course this is a fallacy in my argument that i am taking it for given ... perhaps there are numbers to back it up, but i don't have them. Anyway, if we say that SE can rebound from a 2.0 failure, then even in that situation the relative low point of the current value would likely be exceeded in a 5 year span. Then, in a situation where the stock values will eventually exceed where they are now, even if they manage to drop beyond their current value, the end result is still a gain.

    The difference of course being the size of the gain from the buying point. This is by no means a winning lottery ticket, but it is still a gain over enough time. ... that is unless the company folds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NefarioCall View Post
    I suppose my thoughts are EXACTLY this. Though there is no proof that SE could rebound from a 2.0 failure, let us say that they can. Of course this is a fallacy in my argument that i am taking it for given ... perhaps there are numbers to back it up, but i don't have them. Anyway, if we say that SE can rebound from a 2.0 failure, then even in that situation the relative low point of the current value would likely be exceeded in a 5 year span. Then, in a situation where the stock values will eventually exceed where they are now, even if they manage to drop beyond their current value, the end result is still a gain.

    The difference of course being the size of the gain from the buying point. This is by no means a winning lottery ticket, but it is still a gain over enough time. ... that is unless the company folds.
    they wont recover from another loss by choice not by lack of resources. Square now has 3 MMO's to milk if one of them fails no biggy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NefarioCall View Post
    I suppose my thoughts are EXACTLY this. Though there is no proof that SE could rebound from a 2.0 failure, let us say that they can. Of course this is a fallacy in my argument that i am taking it for given ... perhaps there are numbers to back it up, but i don't have them. Anyway, if we say that SE can rebound from a 2.0 failure, then even in that situation the relative low point of the current value would likely be exceeded in a 5 year span. Then, in a situation where the stock values will eventually exceed where they are now, even if they manage to drop beyond their current value, the end result is still a gain.

    The difference of course being the size of the gain from the buying point. This is by no means a winning lottery ticket, but it is still a gain over enough time. ... that is unless the company folds.
    I wouldn't call it a terrible investment, but to be honest if I was going to invest in SE I would be hoping for a 2.0 failure. This would further depress the stock (at this point I would buy) then I would hope for a huge turnout on versus and the following FF title. I may be a bit skittish because I seriously considered investing prior to FFXIV's release. I would have taken a considerable hit. Not entirely because of XIV, but just SE overall took a hit.
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