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Thread: PF is dead

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    PF is dead

    what is going on in pf I spend hours sitting in groups for them to never fill waiting for healers or Physical Ranged, then the group just falls apart and i jump to the next one. I have never had this hard of a time getting into a full pf group before. Did everyone just quit playing healer and phy ranged or something?

    I quit half way through Endwalker and came back switched to tank for the first time since ARR which doesn't help because every pf is always filled up with tanks
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    Well both groups are distatisfied with there class design, so its not surprising that less and less people are ready to do it.
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    You can thank SE for that with their fake congestion lmao, people cant go to Aether
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    One of the issues with congestion is there are so many parties that your one can be on the last page, hidden away so people join any of the hundred parties in front of yours instead. In this case it may help to merge with another if possible.
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    You did not spend hours waiting for a party to fill on Aether. Come on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    You can thank SE for that with their fake congestion lmao, people cant go to Aether
    You can thank players for not building their own communities on their own data centers, instead of dogpiling Aether. Otherwise, this wouldn't have been necessary.
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    Implement. Datacenter-wide. Dutyfinder. And. Partyfinder. Per. Region.

    [Problem solved] Ill drop you the invoice via e-mail.
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    Healers are pretty pissed and or demoralized because self sustain of tanks and their ability to heal the raid is so broken that I lack the words for it.

    Self sustain in general needs to be dialed back to make healers needed.

    Healing also needs to be more interesting as healing requirements are so low that we have to dps out of boredom. You know, have healers actually need to heal a majority of time.

    Devs should consider looking at other games perhaps to better understand how to make healing more interesting and not falling back on dps all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Healers are pretty pissed and or demoralized because self sustain of tanks and their ability to heal the raid is so broken that I lack the words for it.

    Self sustain in general needs to be dialed back to make healers needed.

    Healing also needs to be more interesting as healing requirements are so low that we have to dps out of boredom. You know, have healers actually need to heal a majority of time.

    Devs should consider looking at other games perhaps to better understand how to make healing more interesting and not falling back on dps all the time.
    let make my stand clear i totally agree with everything you say. Thats why i actually enjoyed Pandemonium 8 so much when it was fresh. the incomming dmg with the bleed debuff been hitting so hard if you slept for one sec or did a glare to much people just died. This was actually fun i had to heal like its in the name not green dps its HEAL. The problem is you have a big number of players who for a stupid reason want to deal more dmg as a HEALER so the players are ( again ) split in grps. Some want more healing and intresting heal encounters, while other want be a dps with faster queue times.
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    Dunno, this hasnt been my experience in PF, I am a phys ranged and a healer, but I mostly cant get into parties cuz there is a MCH in every one of them. I went healer cuz I wanted to learn to heal this tier, but I can only do wHM, whcih is a spot thats always filled in every PF I try to enter too lol.
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