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    There needs to be an in-game Bestiary with drop lists

    Gathering is MOSTLY well organized in-game. With one exception. Monster/Animal materials. Having to use google to find what you need is too necessary and tedious. Why isn't there a Bestiary with drop lists for each creature / location? Seems a bit silly to leave out something so integral to gathering/crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baklavah View Post
    Gathering is MOSTLY well organized in-game. With one exception. Monster/Animal materials. Having to use google to find what you need is too necessary and tedious. Why isn't there a Bestiary with drop lists for each creature / location? Seems a bit silly to leave out something so integral to gathering/crafting.
    Because since ARR we've been using our retainers to get items and since Shadowbringers we've used Bicolor Gemstones instead of doing the hunting ourselves.
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    Bestiary could include bi-color gem traders in the list of locations to obtain skins/hides/etc.

    Honestly, really struggling to understand why this doesn't exist. It's a design misstep, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baklavah View Post
    Bestiary could include bi-color gem traders in the list of locations to obtain skins/hides/etc.

    Honestly, really struggling to understand why this doesn't exist. It's a design misstep, imo.
    Alright give 5 examples of MMOs that have a bestiary like this. Bonus points if you have any examples that were first released before 2.0 did, double bonus points if it was before 1.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibitIncarne View Post
    Alright give 5 examples of MMOs that have a bestiary like this. Bonus points if you have any examples that were first released before 2.0 did, double bonus points if it was before 1.0.
    I don't think this 'gotcha' of yours reduces the validity of their request.

    How about, give 5 examples of MMOs that have in-game gathering journals as complete as FFXIV's.

    Having to dig through external sites for information has always been a shortcoming of MMOs. When I played WoW, I always despised whenever I needed to dig through WoWHead for information that is so readily accessible in FFXIV. And yet, so close to perfection in this manner, this game falls short by missing this key feature that has been an issue long before bicolors were a thing.

    And also, not everyone has the money to pay for retainers to fit all of their needs, nor does everyone have the time or willingness to farm bicolors for materials considering all of the things there are to spend them on (which, by the way, also require one to search externally for said vendor's locations, as it's a bit absurd to assume that people know which vendors hold which items they need, if they do at all).
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    Last edited by NegativeS; 08-31-2024 at 07:02 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    And also, not everyone has the money to pay for retainers to fit all of their needs, nor does everyone have the time or willingness to farm bicolors for materials considering all of the things there are to spend them on (which, by the way, also require one to search externally for said vendor's locations, as it's a bit absurd to assume that people know which vendors hold which items they need, if they do at all).
    1: You're forgetting that the market board allows you to buy raw materials.
    2: If you max the rank for each of the 6 zones of the expansion (As you'll probably do while farming bicolor gemstones) you'll unlock the ability to buy Every Monster Drop for that expansion in both the major and minor city's bicolor vendors. Remembering the expansion that an item is from is considerably easier than remembering 6 vendors' locations.
    3: Doing FATEs is faster than farming monsters for ShB/EW/DT materials, and the price of SB raw materials is absurdly low due to uneven supply and demand as a result of people running Gazelleskin maps a lot more than any other Timeworn Map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibitIncarne View Post
    Alright give 5 examples of MMOs that have a bestiary like this. Bonus points if you have any examples that were first released before 2.0 did, double bonus points if it was before 1.0.
    "Other games don't have this feature" isn't a good argument against adding it. It's my firm belief that every game should give you all the relevant information within the actual game. I'm sick of having to dig through wikis and Discord servers.
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    It would be a nice to have feature indeed, but because the drop rate for these items is way too low, there is no reason to hunt the monsters when you can just send a retainer.
    You can kill 10 monsters and not get a single drop.
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