The real reason there are even subscribers in 2024

[Colt47]

I disagree on the player population thing.
EW had the WoW people but DT surfed on the EW hype.
Long time will show if DT can stand on it’s on legs.

Other than that I agree.
FF14 will not die for the next several years and probably not even decline.
DT story sucks but many (me included for the foreseeable future) stay while being miffed about it because the rest is still good and many years of playtime were sunk into it.

The biggest thing is probably also that there is no real competition.
Wow can be big again but it has another target audience for a huge part and for me and quite a number of others is uninteresting because of art style and narrative alone.

Guild Wars maybe but I don’t know the status of it since I heard rumors of Guild Wars 3.

Personally I think the only ones who could become a danger right now would be Hoyoverse with the huge financial playroom they have would they develop an mmorpg.
But I don’t see that and if there is none they can exist peacefully besides FF14.

The worst thing for ff14 right now is that it can become widely known as mediocre.
If it has nothing anymore that makes it stand out than people might spent less in it. Less subscription (just waiting for expansions) less mog station and so on.

To be frank, the only type of game that even has a "death" is a live service. FFXIV already died multiple times as well since we can never go back to play the game as it was before. I can go back and play Chrono Cross on my PS2 and it is still the same experience I had in the late 90s. The other thing is the illusion of progress in FFXIV: nothing matters in the game. If someone wants to get the most enjoyment out of the game they might as well wait until the next expansion and retro play the prior one, because the entire system favors that over grinding in the current end game.

[Mistress_Irika]

OP is funny. Maybe I will go back to playing Divinity 2. I need to try and beat the game on the harder difficulties. Whether I'll do it entirely solo again is a different story.

I can't say I'm innocent when it comes to RPing. However, it did take over 4 years for that alone to drag me out of grinding PvP. That's what has truly kept me going when I first started. So much to do in the game, and that's all you can come up with? Shame...shame on you.

[TBerry]

This may be an unpopular opinion but in my eyes mods are part of the problem.
The people just fix stuff like hats themself instead of demanding that from the devs.
It’s crazy how fast the community can throw out good looking hairstyles while the devs can only be bothered to half ass one every few years.
When was the last time we got a good looking hairstyle? Bozja?

Those pictures while creepy are just the most extreme.
If my time with Skyrim modding is any indication then most people mod only little things like ears, makeup or hair, maybe some outfits but normally not like in those screenshots.

I get what you're saying, and I agree, but my point is, if you're just a mismatched mess while you expect everyone to see what you see, and without any desscription or explanation (which RP hinges on), it's just sad.

[LianaThorne]

I know HoYo probably won’t make an mmo (even though I think they are the only ones who could combine good gacha with it without it being predatory).
It was just an example of the fact that there is actually no one who can really be a competition to ff14 right now because all others are too different, be it art style or storytelling.
I’m not saying Hoyo is better but that ff14 could actually learn from looking what other games do in some aspects.
And as sad as it is. When I compare Wuk Lamat to any of the Fontaine characters she falls flatter than the earth in some tinfoil brains.

FF14 actually needs competition in my opinion but there is none and that’s the big danger.


This may be an unpopular opinion but in my eyes mods are part of the problem.
The people just fix stuff like hats themself instead of demanding that from the devs.
It’s crazy how fast the community can throw out good looking hairstyles while the devs can only be bothered to half ass one every few years.
When was the last time we got a good looking hairstyle? Bozja?

Those pictures while creepy are just the most extreme.
If my time with Skyrim modding is any indication then most people mod only little things like ears, makeup or hair, maybe some outfits but normally not like in those screenshots.

I think it's a cause and effect thing.

People have been asking for years for the devs to add/fix things, Viera hats included (I joined during 5.2 and people were asking for them then prior to mods exploding). I think after a while some just got tired of waiting for the customization they wanted and now we're here. I don't think it's necessarily fair to blame them for the issues existing but I agree now that Square might just not care to improve on things since modders will do it for them.

[Rekh]

They definitely help make the game better, such as the one that gives you hats for viera and hrothgar. In my opinion square enix should be happy the modding and plugins community has kept people around; they've fixed a lot of things square enix hasn't fixed in a decade like the physics engine breaking above 60fps.

[caffe_macchiato]

Though I should ask, now that you've gone from the fake "cheerleader" posting to the utterly bitter posting, and saying things like your opening two sentences...why are you even here? Go play a game you'll actually enjoy (seriously).

You don't need to "play" FFXIV in 2024 as the game basically plays itself. I will stay subbed, I will make images of my character in lingerie, and I will continue to trash this "game" on the forums at the same time. FFXIV is the video game equivalent of a trailer park brothel and it should be treated as such. I'm glad they have tolerance because this is the one thing that FFXIV does very well.

[vafurous]

i mean i didnt start playing until a little over a year ago so i guess i dont have the most rooted opinion but i enjoy myself with the game very much for just...the game, i dont use third party software hell i barely kno what a macro is lol. i take pics of my lala on my phone sometimes and thats about it. i dont even have any glam rly

whats with all the doomposting anyway? if ur not having fun then yea you should probably leave

[Mura128]

bait threads used to be believable

[EdwinChucklenuts]

You don't need to "play" FFXIV in 2024 as the game basically plays itself. I will stay subbed, I will make images of my character in lingerie, and I will continue to trash this "game" on the forums at the same time. FFXIV is the video game equivalent of a trailer park brothel and it should be treated as such. I'm glad they have tolerance because this is the one thing that FFXIV does very well.

Rebel against the system by paying into it. Thanks for helping keep the servers up pal!

[EdwinChucklenuts]

i mean i didnt start playing until a little over a year ago so i guess i dont have the most rooted opinion but i enjoy myself with the game very much for just...the game, i dont use third party software hell i barely kno what a macro is lol. i take pics of my lala on my phone sometimes and thats about it. i dont even have any glam rly

whats with all the doomposting anyway? if ur not having fun then yea you should probably leave

Welcome to the forums! The ones doomposting here are usually pretty miserable thus spend their time here complaining rather than, ya know... Playing the game.. :O