Ultimate demise of 14?

[Kirutsuki]

Wanted to write about this topic since its been on my mind for a bit now.
Kind of a late night rant than anything.

I am sort of scared about the future of FF14 if this is what they have to show for us.
So put your set belts on as I go about criticizing ALOT about the current state of the game.

Now, this is coming from someone who has ~6000hours put into the game. I started with patch 5.3 when they introduced flying to ARR zones. So I have not been here as long as many of you.

But I honestly have started to feel like the the entire Dev team has pushed themselves into a corner with the way they handle their expansions and the following patch content with such data driven systematic approach,
that it ultimately is hurting the game and at least my enjoyment for any of it anymore.

I WAS hoping Dawntrail would deviate from their normal way of handling an expansion and it's content, but were are exactly back here where we were on the hiatus of Endwalker.
Searching for content to do and waiting for patches and all of those upcoming patches are so predictable that people already know what is going to be included in each .x patch.

It's getting stale, and the dev team needs to stop doing this. While there are of course things to do still in Dawntrail, it is not actually a lot of engaging content more than it is doing your daily/weekly tasks.
The only content that I personally feel engaged in are Treasure Maps and Savages. But I'm not a hardcore raider so Savages tend to take a backseat, so what am I left with?

Hunt trains, fate farmings, crafting, these are all things we've been doing for the past god knows how many years for each expansion, many of you more than me.
And I can't be alone in thinking that it's getting way too repetitive. And these I consider more like tasks than actually engaging content at all, we all do them half brain-dead just collecting points for mounts.

Why can't the devs in Creative Studio III come up with new and unique gameplay systems to spice up the general non hardcore gameplay?
Doesn't the developing of a game so systematically become extremely boring when you know exactly what you're making for each patch?

And why must we wait for these patches to come out so that we finally have something to do at some point that resembles something unique?
Why couldn't we just wait for Dawntrail to be released a bit later so that it already has content to it beyond the normal MSQ + 2EX's

And I know there's more to an expansion, but the fact that the devs are so adamant on having the expansion experience be exactly the same as the last expansion is just annoying to someone like me;
who wants and needs different kinds of things to do after the MSQ is done. I do not like doing single thing over and over again until I have lost all interest to it.

Now sure, I could always go back and do some ARR relics or finish up Eureka or whatever,
but those are things that will always stay on the backlog of things for me and I will only do them when I literally have absolutely nothing else at all to do.

Why couldn't we just have the expansion come out a few months later, with all the bells and whistles and people could go and do whatever they wanted.
As an MMO this feels extremely limiting especially if you stay within the confines of the expansion.

And I've kind of lost interest on doing the literal same progression I did on endwalker.
And I only experience that one. I wasnt' there for Shadowbringers, but I'm sure alot of you have been doing this same routine for far longer.

1. MSQ
2. Do some FATES & Hunt Trains, maybe PvP.
3. EX 1&2
4. Level Up crafters
5. prepare for savages in 2 weeks
6. wait for more content
(bit of a generalization)
and this repeats on every .x patch until nauseum.

Yes we do get content that drives the players. But it's always so predictable,
oh it's the 0.X patch that will give the beast tribes, or that this 0.X patch will give a SINGLE dungeon!
YAY!

Just some ramblings of mine, I know most will probably disagree with me. And its more likely that I am just burned out,
but I can't help but think that I am literally in the same spot as I was in when people were complaining about the lack of content in Endwalker.

I honestly feel like I should have just skipped playing Dawntrail and waited for the last patch to hit before starting to play,
there's just too much downtime unless you really want to keep doing the same stuff you've been doing for multiple years already.

I do hope Creative Studio III just stops with this "neat package" system they have created that they so systematically follow to a T.
It doesn't allow for surprises of any kind and it certainly doesn't allow devs to explore new ideas. As much as I love FF14, I am no longer willing to turn a blind eye for the gripes I have.
Just increase the development time of things and release more content in one go, rather than trickle them out like candy once in a blue moon.

Regardless, I do hope that whatever each of the patches bring are actually good. I just don't think I have the patience for it anymore.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Stop the doom posting. Game is fine, there's a minority of people on the forums who have been negative for the past 4 years or so.

[Shinku_Tachi]

Stop the doom posting. Game is fine.

Exactly. Nothing else needs to be said.

[xivYuiM]

Stop the doom posting. Game is fine, there's a minority of people on the forums who have been negative for the past 4 years or so.

L take, the gameplay started getting worse in stormblood but began a massive spiral downward since shadowbringers launch and is showing no signs of recovery. If anything they are TRIPLING down on the mindless job design and sleep-inducing normal mode/casual content with massive waits between patches where we will just receive more of the same slop.

[Dante131]

Stop the doom posting. Game is fine, there's a minority of people on the forums who have been negative for the past 4 years or so.

god i so hate postings like this. So this Person is telling you what exactly the problem is. You opinion may be diffrent thats fine. But for the love of god stop being like that, not every critique is doom posting. Posts like this make me so aggressive, that stand is the reason why nothing will ever change. Besides the minority is not correct. since DT the community is more then split because surprise DT was not a good expansion for a lot of people. So what shall they do, shut it and swallow it down ? Lets say you are in a restaurant and you order a vegan dish but you are getting meat will you accept it instead of well communicate what is wrong ? People been unsatisfied since Endwalker .X patches for a reason and not because they want to be doomposter. People want to communicate what is bad in their eyes, you are welcome to discuss it but if stop doomposting is your most productive comment, then consider to not post it since you are limited on how mch you can post in the forum anyway and a comment like this helps nobody.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

god i so hate postings like this. So this Person is telling you what exactly the problem is. You opinion may be diffrent thats fine. But for the love of god stop being like that, not every critique is doom posting. Posts like this make me so aggressive, that stand is the reason why nothing will ever change. Besides the minority is not correct. since DT the community is more then split because surprise DT was not a good expansion for a lot of people. So what shall they do, shut it and swallow it down ? Lets say you are in a restaurant and you order a vegan dish but you are getting meat will you accept it instead of well communicate what is wrong ? People been unsatisfied since Endwalker .X patches for a reason and not because they want to be doomposter. People want to communicate what is bad in their eyes, you are welcome to discuss it but if stop doomposting is your most productive comment, then consider to not post it since you are limited on how mch you can post in the forum anyway and a comment like this helps nobody.

Your example is flawed because the restaurant tells you up front what it's menu is and after you order you go "why didn't you change it up, I want something different than what's on the menu".

That is what OP is doing. Also, he is doom posting, he's saying he's worried the game is dying when he's simply burnt out.

[Dante131]

i am not burned out making a lot of breaks and i am worried aswell and now ? its not doomposting if you have valid critiques. why is it so hard to understand for you that not everyone likes the same thing as you do ? for my example i think you missunderstand it...lets make it more clear. you have a menu and order something, but the waiter make a mistake and you get something diffrent what will you do ? call the waiter tell him theres a mistake and order something new or do you keep quiet about it and eat it? same thing is here. Whave a game here OP is not happy about it, so the forum is the place to raise the voice. where is the diffrence ? For people like you i can litterally stand in a raid which is unplayable because SE fcked it up and when i will speak it out i am a doomposter aswell. the game is not perfect and the community was never so splitted and unsatisfied as it is now. Dont be ignorant you know it if you are looking into the forums. Its not a minority anymore. So whats next will you call every person who wants the game beeing great again a doomposter or do you have valid arguements why OP should not be woried about the future ? The argument of you are just burned out is so i am sorry mr SE Stu*pid. thats like the only argument that people have when someone raise his voice about the flaws of the game. But spoiler there are a lot of people who do breaks for 1 and half year and still hates some parts of the game where is the burnout ? Now you have the choice make a good list like one other person did with all the arguments and maybe you state why OP is wrong or just call us doomposter and prove me that you have no arguments beside of burn out and doomposter. I might not answer today because this forum limits my posting like thanks for that 10 posts a day lol. Trust me ill answer you. Prove me and the "minority" how wrong we all are because....

[Morphiana]

Stop the doom posting. Game is fine, there's a minority of people on the forums who have been negative for the past 4 years or so.

MSQ is far from fine, this was worse than Stormblood which was notorious for not being great. It isn't just the forums. Professional review sites have it as mixed, streamers are mixed, and on social media when people being up FFXIV there's usually someone who brings up DT not being great. Word of mouth for the game isn't great at the moment which is how it got to be as successful as it is, by fans who enjoyed what the devs put out telling everyone about it.

Let's be clear, they can't screw around. They got lucky WoW tripped over itself at the end of Shadowbringers which boosted the game from "doing well" to "doing amazing". However, WoW has since recovered in terms of the quality of content put out and has an xpac in a couple weeks. DT being mixed is no where close to being a nail in the coffin but it will hurt and if they don't fix things as players will go elsewhere just as they did to during Shadowlands or whatever.

That being said, historically when the community has had a strong negative reaction to something they try to change course. I believe they'll do that here. Though, I don't expect it soon as the story for 7.0-7.4 or 5 is likely finished.

[Lak14]

Why can't the devs in Creative Studio III come up with new and unique gameplay systems to spice up the general non hardcore gameplay?

ereuka *cough* bozja *cough*

but the casual whined too much and so we got the manderville instead.

[Kirutsuki]

ereuka *cough* bozja *cough*

but the casual whined too much and so we got the manderville instead.

Did those come with the expansion release or did people have to wait for months for them to finally be playable?
Thats the topic here, not that there isn't content to do.