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    MartinFreeman's Avatar
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    Vin Helsing
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    People tend to focus way too much on Wuk Lamat and way too little on the plentiful other aspects of how poorly the MSQ is written. If they killed off Wuk Lamat and we never had to see her again, I genuinely don't think that alone would improve the story one bit, because Wuk Lamat was simply the most prominent vehicle for one particular writer's lack of skill. Get rid of Wuk Lamat and that lack of skill will simply be poured into other characters, whether new or old.
    A lot of the story was poorly written, especially the setting. Each zone lacked the depth of previous expansion zones. I can accept that everyone is primitive so their history is still new. But Mamool area should have had a lot more to it, including its sister area it shares the same map with. And let's not get started on not knowing much about the important side characters. It felt like only Sphene got that, and even then it was only barebones...like a Disney movie.
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    People tend to focus way too much on Wuk Lamat and way too little on the plentiful other aspects of how poorly the MSQ is written.
    Uh ... no? If you actually read the most of the discussion a lot of people said a lot of thing about the msq in general and not just Wuk Lamat. But she's the mascot and main character of the story, so naturally she becomes the face of the issue. Just because a lot of complain is about her specifically (and for good reason), doesn't mean people are not talking about other issues. They're not mutual exclusive.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    That would explain her drastic power creep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    That would explain her drastic power creep.
    It actually explains it a lot. For some reason, she kept scaling in power through the expansion, which meant the more followers she got, the stronger she was becoming.
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Gaius was right.
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    Neo Bird
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    Gaius was right.
    Remember us....

    ...remember...that we once glibbed :C
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    I can't believe Final Fantasy XIV made an entire expansion focused on Jar Jar Binks.

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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Nah, If Wuk is a primal it mean they could give SMN the ability to summon her in 8.0. We don't want that.
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    Qiaomei Midas
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    Faerie
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    If enthralling people was all you needed to be a Primal sure.

    But the Primal’s we’ve met are aware of the needs of those that summoned them. And offer them “help” by granting those needs in twisted ways (think Lakshmi) or exploiting it by saying I need more worshipers and/or crystals.

    Wuk Lamat barely knew her immediate neighbors, the Hanu Hanh and the Pelupelu
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    Saya Finwel
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papayatar View Post
    If enthralling people was all you needed to be a Primal sure.

    But the Primal’s we’ve met are aware of the needs of those that summoned them. And offer them “help” by granting those needs in twisted ways (think Lakshmi) or exploiting it by saying I need more worshipers and/or crystals.

    Wuk Lamat barely knew her immediate neighbors, the Hanu Hanh and the Pelupelu
    What do you mean ? She knew the need of the fat chicken people, they needed to party !
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    Glanderias Forul'tir
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    Wuk Lamat came to Sharalyan and convinced rather easily the scions to assist her. Considering the repercussions of a political new leader which can cause waves in the rest of the world. The WoL may or may not have become tempered, too, since he went along with it all with no question.

    Wuk Lamat solved all her problems around her with the power of friendship and will of force....but in reality, she was using her primal powers to subdue and subjugate the people around her to do her bidding.

    Alisaie, the usual jump into the fray and assertive girl, and the other scions, who are always cautious about leadership types considering all the history we go through...suddenly do not mind nor question how Wuk is just going from town to town solving decade long conflicts with a smile and telling people to cooperate. Nor do they question why there is little conflict in Tural with everyone happy and content.

    Wuk Lamat finds a long lost civilization of memories...and then tells them that they can still live happily together, ignoring their opposite positions. But because everyone is just robots and memories, it doesn't work out quite that well...

    Until Sphene at the very last minute actually hears listens to her. Wuk Lamat's primal powers are truly something to even go beyond the physical into cyberspace.

    Now we wait for one of the scions...possibly Y'shtola or Urianger, to wake up in the middle of the night one of these days and realize what just happened before they congregate and consider a plan to eradicate the primal that was under their nose all this time once and for all.

    But, OP, Wuk has to be summoned first to be a primal right?!

    Yes. The entirety of Tural are our enemies.
    I could forgive them for DT MSQ if this was the plot twist.
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