Sena Bryer is right: the hatred that Smile gets is highly problematic

[CamuiKushi]

The song is great, but the singer ruins it. They should've went with the instrumental version.

I really like the Solution 9 music, so you might be on to something.

[Midare]

I'd like to thank the usually bunch for reminding everyone that the only redeemable thing about this here VA is... let me check my notes...

That she takes meds and goes by she her pronouns.

And absolutely nothing else.

You keep doing a great job watering down negative labels, I'm sure future generations will be thankful for that.

[Ashpd]

this

and we also need to add that we are dealing with a person who does EVERYTHING to be talked about. and very jealous if the topics do not relate to the Sena. I wouldn't be surprised if the trans transition was made just so that you could attribute everywhere and use this argument as a passing card. Sena not only harms the game, but also the all trans community.

[Chasingstars]

If you like smile that is fine, I personally would have preferred something like Road to El Dorado.

https://youtu.be/YIF1UtS21IQ?list=PL...8bZDYbtCuJfJki

[TaleraRistain]

If you like smile that is fine, I personally would have preferred something like Road to El Dorado.

https://youtu.be/YIF1UtS21IQ?list=PL...8bZDYbtCuJfJki

Or something like the end credit song of that which would go along with the whole losing the memories of loved ones theme while also maintaining a hope for the future vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93TS94f9NP4

[Shibi]

Could you tell me when this was the norm in the history of the planet?

Pre-Xitter and pre-Grannybook was ok, IRC channels were bannable places, newsgroups were a bit iffy. So, Pre internet was even better. One would pen a letter to the editor. The editor would choose the best, alter some, publish them in the paper. People were more polite. Well at least in my country. I don't know about the situation in the USA in the 60s and 70s. But here, outside of anti-war protests, which were more march and appear on the Black and White news of that night on Tele.

But after social media arrived on the scene, a number of groups did find a new weapon to beat normal people over the head with. The tone of discussion clearly went down fast. Unfiltered speech at a global scale... is hard.

[Antharaes]

Ultimately, all of this in my opinion stems from being forced to know waaay too much about stuff. Way too much info, and the additional stuff that we're now forced to know is never actually relevant to the core issues at hand.

Smile isn't as well received as prior songs.
This should be where it ends. That's just a fact. Some people like it, some people don't.
but then another layer gets forcefully added on.
"Smile is actually just like (insert race) music, which means if you don't like it, you're actually just racist."
Now instead of just disliking the song, people are having to leap hoops and disclaim and clarify, all because somehow race got introduced into the subject (where it honestly didnt belong), turning it into this seemingly huge convoluted issue, where either you're a good person or you're a bad person, with nowhere being allowed in-between. It stopped being about music critique, and suddenly became about racial tensions. The topic became barred from reality and turned into a battle of poor faith arguments.

Likewise, we should have been able to critique the voice actress as we have with any other voice actor/actress.
Wuk's voice acting was not as well received as others.
That should have been where it ended, just like it has in the past with other VA's who were criticized for not doing as good of a job.
but far too quickly, an additional layer was added.
"Wuks actress is trans, which means that if you critique their voice for any reason whatsoever, it's actually just because you're being transphobic"
There is no delicate enough way to express that their voiced sounded grating in some scenes. You can't do it, it's a losing fight. The only ways to describe it are exactly the ways that would be taken as offensive. You have to leap hoops and disclaim and clarify, all because somehow t-gender got introduced into the subject (where it honestly didnt belong), turning it into a convoluted issue where once again, either you're a good progressive person, or you're a far right bald headed nazi.
It stopped being about voice acting critique, and suddenly became about t-gender tensions.

Both topics are barred from reality and forced to drown in feelings that should not at all be relevant in either topic at hand.
This person loves using feelings to shield from reality, and that is just very unfortunate to keep seeing happen lol.

This right here is the right answer to this whole debacle.
And to some of you...get your heads out of your asses....because and this may come as a surprise, it's not a fucking hat. Some of you have such a narrow mind, it's scary.

[Decoyninja]

Ultimately, all of this in my opinion stems from being forced to know waaay too much about stuff. Way too much info, and the additional stuff that we're now forced to know is never actually relevant to the core issues at hand.

Smile isn't as well received as prior songs.
This should be where it ends. That's just a fact. Some people like it, some people don't.
but then another layer gets forcefully added on.
"Smile is actually just like (insert race) music, which means if you don't like it, you're actually just racist."
Now instead of just disliking the song, people are having to leap hoops and disclaim and clarify, all because somehow race got introduced into the subject (where it honestly didnt belong), turning it into this seemingly huge convoluted issue, where either you're a good person or you're a bad person, with nowhere being allowed in-between. It stopped being about music critique, and suddenly became about racial tensions. The topic became barred from reality and turned into a battle of poor faith arguments.

Likewise, we should have been able to critique the voice actress as we have with any other voice actor/actress.
Wuk's voice acting was not as well received as others.
That should have been where it ended, just like it has in the past with other VA's who were criticized for not doing as good of a job.
but far too quickly, an additional layer was added.
"Wuks actress is trans, which means that if you critique their voice for any reason whatsoever, it's actually just because you're being transphobic"
There is no delicate enough way to express that their voiced sounded grating in some scenes. You can't do it, it's a losing fight. The only ways to describe it are exactly the ways that would be taken as offensive. You have to leap hoops and disclaim and clarify, all because somehow t-gender got introduced into the subject (where it honestly didnt belong), turning it into a convoluted issue where once again, either you're a good progressive person, or you're a far right bald headed nazi.
It stopped being about voice acting critique, and suddenly became about t-gender tensions.

Both topics are barred from reality and forced to drown in feelings that should not at all be relevant in either topic at hand.
This person loves using feelings to shield from reality, and that is just very unfortunate to keep seeing happen lol.

This is true, but it's muddied by one final peace of the puzzle, that a fair number of transphobic people did show up and used this as an excuse to show their asses. Now it gives the appearance of legitimizing some of what Sena said. It didn't legitimize it, but convincing people with critiques to not put their worst foot forward and mimic the people they decry is expecting so much it seems.

[Antharaes]

This is true, but it's muddied by one final peace of the puzzle, that a fair number of transphobic people did show up and used this as an excuse to show their asses. Now it gives the appearance of legitimizing some of what Sena said. It didn't legitimize it, but convincing people with critiques to not put their worst foot forward and mimic the people they decry is expecting so much it seems.

I am sorry to burst your bubble, but calling people transphobic, because they refuse to use the proper noun/pronoun is wrong. Sena brought this down on themselves, by referring as trans, not as a female, but as trans first. Sena only chooses the right noun/pronoun, when it fits Sena's narritive. I always referred to Sena as she in my previous posts but from now on, I refuse to do that. You are either the gender you chose, be it male or female, not trans first and then when it's convenient your chosen gender.

[Amecoeur]

This is true, but it's muddied by one final peace of the puzzle, that a fair number of transphobic people did show up and used this as an excuse to show their asses. Now it gives the appearance of legitimizing some of what Sena said. It didn't legitimize it, but convincing people with critiques to not put their worst foot forward and mimic the people they decry is expecting so much it seems.

You are running around harassing people by calling them transphobes is just as much of a problem.
You are crying wolf over people not agreeing or playing your identity game while you are pretty much the same, another hateful name caller.

These whole gender thing is not productive neither it has any benefit to us all.
At the end when everyone got their pronouns right what will this concept contribute to the society?