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    Alliance Raid Roulette

    Ive started playing FFXIV since HW. I always felt Alliance was a slog, took too long. Recently I have seen an effort from the team to make them shorter, 30m maximum.

    So ive been playing them more. Fun but at least in EU its ALWAYS LEVEL 50!!!

    I think i would be fun if they made a system where Alliance raid had more variety and still be around max 30m. We have amazing level 60, 70, 80, 90 raids. We have variety!

    All comes to, make it that Alliance roulette is not always level 50 and still be around under 30m in a normal everyday group.

    Maybe everyweek change the level of the Alliance raid. So 1 week level 50 and so forth, or just make algorythm better. Open to ideas.

    Just an idea - would love it!
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    Last edited by Jib; 08-12-2024 at 09:41 PM.

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    Alliance raid depends on a few things, but the biggest one is probably that people don't go out of their way to unlock the extra alliance raids. Since they aren't an MSQ requirement in the same way as CT, some just genuinely aren't aware that they exist. I personally think that's a leading factor in why CT pops so much since they supposedly fixed the cheese strat of dropping ilvl to force CT to spawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Alliance raid depends on a few things, but the biggest one is probably that people don't go out of their way to unlock the extra alliance raids. Since they aren't an MSQ requirement in the same way as CT, some just genuinely aren't aware that they exist. I personally think that's a leading factor in why CT pops so much since they supposedly fixed the cheese strat of dropping ilvl to force CT to spawn.
    I really don’t get why they don’t make all of them MSQ needed.
    They all give lore for the world (Ivalice), pick up old stories (Mhachi) or are even a kind of continuation of the MSQ (the twelve). Nier is the only one I have doubts but even that gives us dwarf lore.

    The writers would have also a much easier time not having to dance around them being done or not.

    They aren’t even hard and at some point a game can expect people to actually play the game if they want to experience the story.

    The entire alliance roulette problems would be solved with that more or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    I really don’t get why they don’t make all of them MSQ needed.
    They all give lore for the world (Ivalice), pick up old stories (Mhachi) or are even a kind of continuation of the MSQ (the twelve). Nier is the only one I have doubts but even that gives us dwarf lore.

    The writers would have also a much easier time not having to dance around them being done or not.

    They aren’t even hard and at some point a game can expect people to actually play the game if they want to experience the story.

    The entire alliance roulette problems would be solved with that more or less.
    They don't necessarily need to do that, but they could make it so you are required to have all the alliance raids for your level unlocked (like they've done with the ilvl cheese strat having requirements being based on your level). That would likely force people to unlock them, which is the end-goal here.
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    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    There has been a huge influx of legitimate new players since Dawntrail, which can drag out the roulette because we have first timers and I have noticed it is throwing off the veteran players because its making alliance raids go longer. I think folks need to remember these roulettes are intended for players trying to complete content. Yes, we get benefits to it, but we aren't guaranteed a swift ride.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    The ARR ones have the highest chances of showing up as they're the lowest level so there can be people who can only enter them in queue, and them being the only mandatory ones new players might have just skipped out on the other Alliance Raid series as the go through the MSQ.
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    As long as ARR alliance raid is required by the MSQ and the rest are optional, alliance raid roul is just circus tower roul.
    There's just waaaaaaay too many players with CT unlocked than the other ones. Even then I think you'll likely see CT more cause a few relics are tied to it as well. While the rest you gotta only queue for em for glam or completion. They don't give more rewards to justify running.
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    The roulette begins searching from the lowest level raids instead of the inverse, which is faulty when fewer people are at higher levels and have those raids unlocked. Then it'll find a random number of people for a higher level raid before giving up and defaulting to CT. It doesn't even try to differentiate.
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    Alliance Raid Roulette could do for a reward increase... if anything id love it if it gave decent size chunk of exp like Frontlines Roulette...
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    Every roulette needs a severe decrease in ilvl if nothing else. It's so unbelievably boring.

    And give me a min ilvl roulette while you're at it.
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