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    How does a reaper major feels about reaper in 7.05 now and how it can be improved

    (English is not my first language but i am trying to make it clear and easy to understand)

    Hi, I am a melee dps player who have played all melee dps(include viper) for a long time. I started to play RPR since Endwalker and I regard RPR as my major. I can tell you without lying that I have been played Rpr at least 2000 hours.

    The negative impact of the 7.0 update on RPR’s rotation:
    Since a new wp skill perfectio has been added to rpr’s rotation once per 2 mins, and it doesnt gain any Soul guage or shroud guage, eventhough harvest moon now can gain 10 soul, RPR will still lose 10 sould per 2 minutes since the second 2mins rotation comparing with the rotation in end walker. Which means, in dawn trail, rpr with 420 skill speed can just only enough to save 50 shroud to hit 2 communions into its 8 min’s arcane circle . However there are lots of mechanics in new savage that force melee to keep away from boss and reaper even sometimes would fail to cast the harpe during proging.

    Main concern about RPR: It can easily be replaced by viper
    As Vpr is very similar to Rpr, so it is very hard to not making contrast between those two. After 7.05 release I realised that Viper is now already much stronger than Rpr in multiple ways, and Rpr seems has no advantages in any of the aspects comparing to viper.
    1. By checking fflogs.com I figured out that viper can do more rdps than reaper in average.
    3.Viper is easier to play at 7.05 as viper’s death’s design has been removed, the rotation became easier.
    4.No cd between Reawakens but 15s between Enshrouds.
    5.vpr doesnt have any cast.
    6.Vpr can even do more damge than rpr in peak 20 seconds(in arcane circle, battle litany, ...)

    Actually I do not expect Rpr to beat Vpr, however, By thinking for a very long time, there are some ways to make reaper not that bad comparing to vpr.
    And i think these update(suggestion) may not change Reaper’s feature and Greatly optimized the operating feel of Reaper.

    Not all of them need to be implemented but I really hope some of the or at least one of them can be considered:

    1.gain 5 or 10 soul with each cast of shadow of death
    2.no cast time of Harpe.
    3.Give opportunity to cast harvest moon regularly
    4.Gain more maximum charge to Soul Slice from 2 to 3 (this is one of the most resonable way to solve the problem i strongly suggest.)
    5.Perfectio gives soul or shroud.
    6.Casting cooldown during enshroud can affected by skill speed
    7.Remove or shorten the recast time of enshroud(this is also reasonable and strongly reccomend)
    8.reduce gluttony cd,(from 60 to 55)
    9.Remove prefectio but increase other skills'damage
    10.Gluttony only strengthen gallows or gibbet only1 time but give 20 shroud.
    11.Increase damge delt of arcane circle from 3% to 5% (please dont leave rpr alone)


    I really wish SE develop team can see this thread and take any of these suggestion into considerations.
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    Last edited by KorosKenzun; 08-12-2024 at 06:55 PM. Reason: Removed controversial discussion

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    If anybody has any questions please reply.
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    Stop asking for jobs to be simpler. Viper already got ruined because of that. There are multiple jobs with a frictionless rotation where you can press whatever you want whenever and don't have anything to manage.
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    I like Reaper, it's a lot of fun. Viper seems even edgier than Reaper if that makes any sense at all. I would like to use a reason to use harpe more though, but I'm just a casual, maybe it's more used in high end content *shrug*

    Also, instead of "major" we normally use "main", so "I'm a reaper main.".
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    Yet another Parser of Light asking for stuff to be changed/ removed so they can do [number up] slightly better to the detriment of actual gameplay.
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    if you want frictionless gameplay just play Viper, it's right there:

    "no Death's Design," good news, Viper lost Noxious Gash,
    "no cast on Harpe," Viper has no casts,
    "Cast Harvest Moon more regularly," that would be Uncoiled Fury,
    "More shroud gauge," Viper is resource positive while Reaper has always been negative,
    "Enshroud cooldown/recast," Reawaken has no cooldown at all,
    Viper Gluttony is Vicewinder and has charges so no drift, why stop at 55 when you could have 40?
    "Remove Perfectio," Viper has no equivalent,

    genuinely my answer to your suggestions is to just switch to Viper, you'll even do more damage in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Stop asking for jobs to be simpler. Viper already got ruined because of that. There are multiple jobs with a frictionless rotation where you can press whatever you want whenever and don't have anything to manage.
    I have never asked Rpr to be simpler. In contrast, I really want it to be harder to complete a nice rotation. Howver, in this thread, I mainly focus on giving suggestion of how to make reaper's skills more reasonable, because I already finish progging m1- 4s using Ninja, Drag, Viper and reaper, I have a big quotation mark about the new weapon cast adding to reaper but lots of old and weird features is still there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I like Reaper, it's a lot of fun. Viper seems even edgier than Reaper if that makes any sense at all. I would like to use a reason to use harpe more though, but I'm just a casual, maybe it's more used in high end content *shrug*

    Also, instead of "major" we normally use "main", so "I'm a reaper main.".
    Thank you for telling me that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    Yet another Parser of Light asking for stuff to be changed/ removed so they can do [number up] slightly better to the detriment of actual gameplay.
    Yes i know it is hard to balaence these jobs and thats why i was giving suggestions instead of being a mad guy telling them what to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeakestZenosEnjoyer View Post
    if you want frictionless gameplay just play Viper, it's right there:

    "no Death's Design," good news, Viper lost Noxious Gash,
    "no cast on Harpe," Viper has no casts,
    "Cast Harvest Moon more regularly," that would be Uncoiled Fury,
    "More shroud gauge," Viper is resource positive while Reaper has always been negative,
    "Enshroud cooldown/recast," Reawaken has no cooldown at all,
    Viper Gluttony is Vicewinder and has charges so no drift, why stop at 55 when you could have 40?
    "Remove Perfectio," Viper has no equivalent,

    genuinely my answer to your suggestions is to just switch to Viper, you'll even do more damage in the end.
    That is what am i going to do exactly if there is no optimistic change on Rpr in comming patch (7.08maybe).
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    Last edited by KorosKenzun; 08-11-2024 at 11:59 PM.

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