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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    It is though, this is why you cannot just take a system from one game and place it into FFXIV. It might play similar to another game, but you still cannot just take systems as it is in the parts where they aren't similar that causes problems.

    To be clear, you can take ideas from other games, however you necessarily need to adapt said system for FFXIV.[/HB]
    FFXIV is not a standalone game it is a copy cat of WoW

    if WoW didn't exist we would see FFXI part 2

    this is a room for discussion people have the freedom to say what they want if you don't like other people opinion you shouldn't agree and you shouldn't be rude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    FFXIV is not a standalone game it is a copy cat of WoW

    if WoW didn't exist we would see FFXI part 2

    this is a room for discussion people have the freedom to say what they want if you don't like other people opinion you shouldn't agree and you shouldn't be rude
    With differences.

    Yup.

    You can say what you want, I can say my opinion on what you say, that is how a discussion works. I didn't like your opinion, I shared my thoughts on your opinion, you don't seem to want to reciprocate.

    As for the rude, the only thing I have said that could even be remotely considered rude is when I pointed out your common theme of taking ideas from other games, and just expecting them to fit into FFXIV without thought. Which, is just an observation more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    FFXIV is not a standalone game it is a copy cat of WoW

    if WoW didn't exist we would see FFXI part 2

    this is a room for discussion people have the freedom to say what they want if you don't like other people opinion you shouldn't agree and you shouldn't be rude
    It's neither a direct copy of WoW nor does standalone mean "wholly original" / "not identifiably derivative".

    We already saw much of what your Final Fantasy XI Part 2: With Some Small Twists would look like (1.x), but it didn't take WoW alone nor specifically to get us out of it, nor was even that a carbon-copy of XI not a game XI systems could be dropped directly into. Heck, had they had more than 30% Yoshida's available team or budget to begin with, wed likely have seen greater difference from XI rather than all the more similarity to it.

    Finally, just as you have the right to, however wrongly, make fallacious or nonsensical claims, others have the right to point out how and why they are wrong. Such is not an attack on your underlying opinions or values, but merely easy discussion away from misinformation, conflation, lack of foresight towards even obvious and immediate concerns, etc.

    As for being rude, someone who so routinely misquotes anyone of opposing opinion to pretend they've held the exact opposite of their actual positions has no moral high ground and does not not inspire confidence that constructive discussion with them is even possible.
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