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    RDM, "transpose" for condensed buttons!

    As of now the base casting rotation for RDM is 5 buttons, 5 buttons which doesn't particular fit well with a controller.

    Therefore i've personally set up a macro that swaps out the light skills with dark skills and vice versa by using hotbar swapping, however this unfortunately also doesn't flow that well due to macros lack of queue/feedback that normal skills have.

    Therefore it would have been lovely if RDM could get an optional action that let you condense Verthunder/Veraero and Verfire/Verstone into two buttons with a 3rd button "transpose" swapping between light and dark of those.

    This way the caster rotation would be neatly fit into 4 buttons rather than 5 and thus fit perfectly for gamepads/controllers without affecting the rdm's rotation in any notable way
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    Why would your macro have queuing issues? Are you actually using actions instead of just manipulating the hotbars? Hotbar manipulation is not subject to cooldowns and animation locks. You can start casting a spell, run a hotbar macro in the middle of the cast, and go right into the next spell without any queue issues.
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    Still, anything with macros is bound to have flow issues.
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    You shouldn't have flow issue, can you share your macro with us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Still, anything with macros is bound to have flow issues.
    This is absolutely not the case; once I understood how to put together a solid macro, understood how to use macros, and stopped trying to get macros to do things they can't comfortably do, I stopped having any flow issues with my macros. But there are so many misunderstandings about macros, and the game never teaches players how to use them, that it's easy to make these sorts of mistakes. Hopefully I can help you avoid some of them!

    If you're not getting queuing out of your macros, it's because you're not manually writing queuing behavior into your macro. To do this, you need to repeat the same cast, and then the game will try to do that cast once per frame. Here's an example with one of my RDM macros:
    /macroicon "Veraero"
    /macroerror off
    /crosshotbar copy RDM 6 RDM 1
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    /ac "Veraero"
    So with that, I get a good spread of frames for the queuing; for most framerates it's not as much queuing as a normal action, but personally I've found it to be sufficient for my needs. But everyone has different systems and different needs, so if that's not enough for yours, that's valid.

    I use this style of macro for all my black or white RDM spells, so that when I press the button to cast, it automatically copies over the spells for the opposite element. And like you're suggesting, I also have two Transpose-like macros so that I can manually swap without casting, for those times when the mana balance gets off kilter and I need to course correct:
    /macroerror off
    /crosshotbar copy RDM6 RDM 1
    ///// switch to black

    /macroerror off
    /crosshotbar copy RDM5 RDM 1
    ///// switch to white
    Just place these on all the appropriate crosshotbars and you remove the need to slot twice the elemental spells! You shouldn't have any flow issues. Hope this helps!

    And in case it helps, here's a video I clumsily threw together to show my macros and demonstrate how the hotbar is affected during use; note that my Jolt spells are in macros that show the icons for the oGCD's I've paired with them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9w89ciAzJI
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    Last edited by LilimoLimomo; 08-11-2024 at 02:24 AM. Reason: added video