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    kobe-sabi's Avatar
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    Ash Tikyrah
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    It has no range and it’s missing 4y radius. U have to be in the beating zone to use it. Once you move that’s it, I am a damn range not a melee. All risk no reward.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    I'd be okay for an all risk, big rewards for it.

    The actual question is more, what are the devs even doing? Does it take like, a crazy budget and resources to find a creative use for this skill? It's been like this for 2+ expansions by now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I'd be okay for an all risk, big rewards for it.

    The actual question is more, what are the devs even doing? Does it take like, a crazy budget and resources to find a creative use for this skill? It's been like this for 2+ expansions by now...
    That’s what I want to know also. Because the last CEO and current said they was throwing more money into FFXIV. And I don’t see it. Lvl 94 and 98 for jobs being trait upgrades and adding 5 sec to an old ability, is lazy. What happen to the 5 new skills to unlock, this is 90 to 100. The big pay off.
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Flamethrower could be an animation upgrade to Auto Crossbow and it would still be more interesting than the current implementation,

    it got its main purpose removed when they reworked heat in ShB and hasn't gotten a new one.
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeakestZenosEnjoyer View Post
    Flamethrower could be an animation upgrade to Auto Crossbow and it would still be more interesting than the current implementation,
    And I'd go as far as say it also makes it somewhat tricky by auto-firing the 5 shots and you can only walk. So you gotta pick when to use it well, sure. In return it should do quite high damage and scorch the ground, causing a DoT effect for 10-15 seconds to anything that stays inside.
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    Rowan Lauron
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    At the very least to make it remotely viable, is have it increase your heat gauge. Since auto crossbow doesn't give you CD reductions to your ogcds, it would make aoe less sad to do.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Looking at the animation, the attack comes from your gun so it makes me think they could rework Flamethrower to be aoe Blazing Shot, and then rework Auto Crossbow (which uses the multi tool) to be aoe Air Anchor.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    Looking at the animation, the attack comes from your gun so it makes me think they could rework Flamethrower to be aoe Blazing Shot, and then rework Auto Crossbow (which uses the multi tool) to be aoe Air Anchor.
    I like the idea actually.

    What I'd also add to flamethrower since it's a channeled ability is just make it consume 10 heat per tick (so technically 110 heat for the total 10s, which would reduce it to 9s, but that's not a problem imo since you could use it any time you want and have heat for it), with potency adjustments. I'd also add a walking cast ability to it so you can wiggle a little in the middle of trash packs, until you eventually have to cut it short and move if required, but I think it's something way harder on their side to make a reality since FT is a glorified ground dot that gets placed in front of you whenever you use it so to me it would just be the icing on the cake really.
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    Last edited by Valence; 08-11-2024 at 06:21 PM.

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    Jain Farstrider
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    Flamethrower is a DPS increase under certain circumstances. If your option is to Scattergun for the next 10s and your Drill won't cap charges and Air Anchor and Chainsaw aren't coming up, and Wildfire isn't due... if you can safely stand somewhere for those 10s, it is a gain. Scattergun is 640 potency for 10s. Flamethrower is 800. But Scattergun would gain 40 heat. That shrinks the gains but not by all that much.

    Given it is a capstone ability, it should do something better than it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Flamethrower is a DPS increase under certain circumstances. If your option is to Scattergun for the next 10s and your Drill won't cap charges and Air Anchor and Chainsaw aren't coming up, and Wildfire isn't due... if you can safely stand somewhere for those 10s, it is a gain. Scattergun is 640 potency for 10s. Flamethrower is 800. But Scattergun would gain 40 heat. That shrinks the gains but not by all that much.

    Given it is a capstone ability, it should do something better than it does.
    thats the point you cant stand anywhere when it has no range. everybody and their mom have huge aoes to run out of. i wouldnt care if i could use Flamethrower from a safe distance.
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