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    I've come to view the crown as a halo topped with demon horns. The person wearing it could be a saint, a sinner, or some of both.

    I still don't think it should be handed out just because someone AFKs for a couple of minutes at the end of a dungeon to farm comms. Better to give the crown to those that have also earned the Mentor of Mentors title (500 Mentor roulettes completed). That would be someone who deserves it whether saint or sinner.

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    Probably because someone in a position to offer advice on how to play the game (as the crown is supposed to imply)
    Except that is not what the crown is supposed to imply.

    The crown is supposed to imply "I am willing to answer some questions about game basics and help if I can". It's not intended to represent someone all-knowing and superior in combat game play.

    The key part is the "willing".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I've come to view the crown as a halo topped with demon horns. The person wearing it could be a saint, a sinner, or some of both.

    I still don't think it should be handed out just because someone AFKs for a couple of minutes at the end of a dungeon to farm comms. Better to give the crown to those that have also earned the Mentor of Mentors title (500 Mentor roulettes completed). That would be someone who deserves it whether saint or sinner.


    Except that is not what the crown is supposed to imply.

    The crown is supposed to imply "I am willing to answer some questions about game basics and help if I can". It's not intended to represent someone all-knowing and superior in combat game play.

    The key part is the "willing".


    Except that is what the crown is literally supposed to imply, because in order to be able to display that crown, you must click Yes on this notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Except that is not what the crown is supposed to imply.

    The crown is supposed to imply "I am willing to answer some questions about game basics and help if I can". It's not intended to represent someone all-knowing and superior in combat game play.

    The key part is the "willing".
    Yeah, mentor crown mean, "I am willing to answer questions about the basics of the game, specific to PVP, combat, and crafting, such as 'where do I spend my Wolf Marks' and 'how does Arm's Length work' and 'what are levequests'. And also I have agreed to be civil and helpful while wearing said crown." It does not mean the mentor is particularly good at the game!

    Mentor roulette is basically, "I've cleared all of this content at least once, so there's a reasonable chance I understand FFXIV's combat language well enough to explain it, and also I'm willing to be a warm body to fill any queue that needs it." Not that said mentor is good at the content, though because there is so much of it required to get into mentor roulette, anyone doing it now almost certainly has a decent grasp of how to play.
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    I think a lot of people that do enjoy mentoring and helping others, don't wear the crown. Simply cause it's known as something more negative in the community, and you don't want others to scrutinize you or see you in a negative light just for wearing the icon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLazarus View Post


    Except that is what the crown is literally supposed to imply, because in order to be able to display that crown, you must click Yes on this notice.
    Huh? That is exactly what the notification says? Provide gameplay advice, be an exemplar for player etiquette, participate in NN. Nothing implies that a mentor needs to be all-knowing or superior.

    To that point, there are 21 jobs now. I could provide the very bare basics of half the jobs. And I would probably also struggle on pulls, playing astro, sage or scholar when i restart those jobs. Like said earlier, there could be any reason why that mentor was struggling. The fact that they are a mentor doesn't mean anything.

    This whole topic should just have been a post in Tales from Duty Finder tbh
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