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    T'klewmea Stolfo
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    It isn't just you and as a burger king crown wearer let me tell you that you can get it purely by just playing long enough almost no matter what you do.

    Moreover, there is absolutely no incentive nor requirement to maintain or keep it by helping others in some way because actually moderating that beyond pretty basic flags or checks for having done something is both something Squeenix is too lazy to do/doesn't want to spend money or time on as far as having someone look at that. Pretty much impossible to automate so the current system is what we got and will likely always have.

    Personally, since I'm wearing it I just try to give decent advice when people ask for it and play as well as I can no matter what job I play, but many, many experiences with other people who wear the godforsaken crown have taught me that, much like you, I shouldn't really be expecting much. And in fact, should probably be expecting even less. Still, after having played this long, I don't really let it bother me that much anymore. It tends to usually be a pretty minor annoyance in the grand scheme of things compared to all the other things in this game that do a better job of getting me upset.
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    Think of it like this: How many bad players in general do you remember, save for a few that were particularly egregious? I'm imagining not many. The fact that they're a mentor sticks more in your mind, because mentors are supposed to be experienced players. I think the ratio of good to bad players is still the same, it's just that the little burger king crown makes that stand out more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil_Comedy View Post
    How is it that every time a Mentor gets in my instance they are always the worst one by far? Just had a Bardam's Mettle where a Mentor WHM couldn't keep me alive and I got kicked because I wasn't pulling as small as they liked, went back in later with another WHM and they had no problem keeping me alive.

    Does anyone else notice that Mentors always are the worst or is this just me?
    I don't want to go through 6 pages, so I don't know if it was already mentioned, but playing healers on lower levels sucks.
    The kit you're used to gets gutted; example:
    1. You target the tank when they're low on HP
    2. You press an ogcd to heal them back up, not realizing that that ability is not available
    3. Not realizing that the heal didn't go off you continue to deal damage
    4. The tank dies / you begin to panic heal

    At least that was my biggest issue whenever I queued into lower level duties.
    That WHM sucks tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuine_stranger View Post
    I don't want to go through 6 pages, so I don't know if it was already mentioned, but playing healers on lower levels sucks.
    The kit you're used to gets gutted; example:
    1. You target the tank when they're low on HP
    2. You press an ogcd to heal them back up, not realizing that that ability is not available
    3. Not realizing that the heal didn't go off you continue to deal damage
    4. The tank dies / you begin to panic heal

    At least that was my biggest issue whenever I queued into lower level duties.
    That WHM sucks tho.
    Let me just correct this to say that playing anything on a lower level sucks, it's not just a healer problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    they should remove the crown and replace it with an I for "Information"

    a mentor is not supposed to be good, he's supposed to know that drk is a tank and that you can unlock the raid tier at solution nine

    hell they should even change the term "mentor" cause a mentor is someone better than you xd
    I've always advocated for a watering can to go with the sprout and flower theme.
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    The crowns mean nothing. It's a narcisscist badge at best. Even crafting mentors are garbage idiots in dungeons
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    i don't mind if mentors suck, they could be leveling new job, get distracted or just having a bad day - not everyone is a god at the game everytime
    i only care when mentors are both bad AND smug about it

    for example, i've run M2 with a friend. we had evidently bunch of first timers + this one lala mentor. a lot of us died during hearts phases and such, we couldn't keep up with ressing and healing. smug mentor said something like "maybe you should try to avoid aoe's and hearts :|" to all the party members who kept dying. after light party stacks only 6 of us were alive for the second hearts phase, so 6 towers were to be soaked. we all soaked them EXCEPT the mentor, as he was busy dpsing, which resulted in a wipe, cause everyone else either had vuln or death debuff. i said to him "maybe you should try soaking the tower". no response. we wiped and he instantly left in shame.

    if he didn't say anything, i wouldn't care. but if you're both smug about yourself while being bad, then you can suck it
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    Nothing about getting the mentor crown involves being good at the game. Even the commendation part can be cheesed pretty easily if you either 1.play tank/healer 2.make a funny glam or adventurer plate. So it's not surprising you will run into mentors that aren't good at the game. You're even able to bypass the requiring leveling a healer part by being summoner, so you can get the crown without ever having touched the role. So you're going to run into some mentors that are good, and some that are bad.
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    I was wondering when we'd get one of those topic again.

    The fact of the matter is that you made this complain about mentors because you had a bad WHM in your team. If he wasn't a mentor, you would've left it alone.

    The crown is just a crown. If he acted mean (like, telling you "oh I'm a mentor, you noob") then by all means, sure.

    But as far as I can understand... he was just a bad healer with a plastic crown next to his name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil_Comedy View Post
    How is it that every time a Mentor gets in my instance they are always the worst one by far? Just had a Bardam's Mettle where a Mentor WHM couldn't keep me alive and I got kicked because I wasn't pulling as small as they liked, went back in later with another WHM and they had no problem keeping me alive.

    Does anyone else notice that Mentors always are the worst or is this just me?
    Burgerking crowns are like bright colours in nature, they are warnings to stay well back as interacting with them will lead to catastrophe, hth.
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    The 14 forums are where awful players go to yell into the void the only issue is that the void then listens.

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