The Current state of DRK

[Astronis]

The MP tax is not engaging or fun. It's a risk-punishment mechanic that frustrates the player whenever the shield doesn't break, and because you need the shield to always break to not lose damage, you rarely even see its upside of having a shorter CD utilized against bosses.

Speak for yourself. Granted it's bad right now with the MP nerf, but it was fine in EW where TBN not breaking wasn't such a massive kick in the teeth. Nevertheless, I find PLD and WAR unengaging because they don't have as much to manage. GNB I can't play because it gives me a headache, so I can't speak to that. If you don't find DRK's MP management enjoyable, there are three other tanks you can play.

[daydreamdrooler]

@zimmerson. I dont really ever go on forums but I have been playing since ARR and have been a main drk since it launched with HW. I put together a small google doc of some changes I thought would be cool. it still needs tweaking but I figured I would actually go through some forums and post it and see if I could get ppls thoughts and maybe even get yoshi-p's eyes on my sheet. Let me know what you think.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?gid=0#gid=0

[daydreamdrooler]

I probably should have done a reply to your post instead of just a normal post so you know I posted in here. lol. check out my comment with the google doc link in it

[Hanayumi]

My thought at least for a kinda general fix;
Give like 2x charges to Carve and Spit/Abyssal Drain and reduce cd
Have TBN dark arts proc on hit taken and instead refund some mp when shield pops
Dark Mind and Missionary, give general mitigation but have bonus effects if the damage taken is magic

[daydreamdrooler]

check my sheet. I think you'll like some of the changes. I think 2 charges on carve and spit would be to powerful

[GartredZW]

They could do the whole "Dark Knight uses health to deal damage" thing by just having mitigations like Oblation and Dark Mind give a stack of Dark Arts when they're used. So if you use it when there's no outgoing damage, it doesn't give you anything.
The Blackest Night is a bit rough right now, but honestly I don't know how I would change it. I really like the risk/reward aspect of it, but given that it's either "use it all and be DPS neutral" or "use most of it and be a DPS loss" There's got to be something to improve there.
Maybe they could chance TBN's cooldown to 45 seconds by default, but if it breaks before the duration ends, the cooldown is reduced by 30 seconds. Then just have it give Dark Arts every time you use it.
I never played back in the job's golden years, so I wouldn't know if this is old news or not, But I'd also want a DoT to supplement Dark Side. Maybe merge Edge and Flood together to cut down on button bloat, and have a damage over time oGCD that also uses 3000 MP, or can be consumed by Dark Arts.
Again, I don't know how it worked before, but I think this sort of thing would be a lot of fun. I feel more and more alone lately when complaining about new Paladin, so maybe I'll join the mob asking for Dark Knight to be fixed. I'm struggling to decide on a new tank main, but currently even in it's current state I'm leaning toward Dark Knight.

[mallleable]

DRK feels so anemic compared to the other tanks. 'Technically playable' is not a sufficient enough answer to leave it as is. It needs changes to its gameplay.