Battle High needs to change/be removed

[Divinemights]

Might that have the unintended side effect of making BH5 players less likely to engage in fights?
I tend to default to anything that increases engagement and rewards/encourages good play. Valence's idea of getting more match points (BH points too maybe?) if you KO a BH5 player is appealing in this regard. BH5 opponents should be primary targets. Reinforce the point with a carrot.

At this point of time, i really don't think it is good idea to revert back to old Battle High
This will only creating un-killable BH5 Gods for casuals
SE updated Battle High to current one for this reason too
Number of veterans becomes the determining factor again
It is not really what people looking for

[Mecia]

If i was in charge i would selectively apply different tiers of BH to abilities. So for example, 20-30% on DRGs LB but full on basic combo.

[Aravell]

Might that have the unintended side effect of making BH5 players less likely to engage in fights?

I tend to default to anything that increases engagement and rewards/encourages good play. Valence's idea of getting more match points (BH points too maybe?) if you KO a BH5 player is appealing in this regard. BH5 opponents should be primary targets. Reinforce the point with a carrot.

As players are rewarded for doing well, so too should they be punished for making a big mistake.

BH5 players should know when to go in and when to get out, they have the good player mark so they should be focused down and the enemy team should be rewarded for taking them down.

You don't get to BH5 by being a coward, and if someone sits on their BH5 and doesn't engage for fear of losing it, they're not contributing to their team in any way.

[Mawlzy]

As players are rewarded for doing well, so too should they be punished for making a big mistake.

BH5 players should know when to go in and when to get out, they have the good player mark so they should be focused down and the enemy team should be rewarded for taking them down.

You don't get to BH5 by being a coward, and if someone sits on their BH5 and doesn't engage for fear of losing it, they're not contributing to their team in any way.

All fair points.

I think what this discussion shows overall is that BH should be retained, if only because of all the interesting suggestions of how it can be used to enhance gameplay and reward effort.

[LibitIncarne]

Change Recuperate so that it is unaffected by Battle High's boost.

Also bring back 8v8v8 Frontline as a manual queuing option.

[Bobby66]

Might that have the unintended side effect of making BH5 players less likely to engage in fights?

I tend to default to anything that increases engagement and rewards/encourages good play. Valence's idea of getting more match points (BH points too maybe?) if you KO a BH5 player is appealing in this regard. BH5 opponents should be primary targets. Reinforce the point with a carrot.

The BH itself is the reward of playing actively well. I also think you should not get BH for assists if you do lower it to 1. This would also help reduce the power of passive damage like dots and stuff.

Edit: If a worry about lack pf fighting add an aggressive decay timer if you don't engage in combat you also lose the BH. Idk

[Commander_Justitia]

Said it before, but anyway, make Battle High last 2 steps "upgraded orange" and "red" visible on map at all times. Takes away the surprise wipe and gives info how to outplay the dominant grand company better

[OliviaLugria]

Said it before, but anyway, make Battle High last 2 steps "upgraded orange" and "red" visible on map at all times. Takes away the surprise wipe and gives info how to outplay the dominant grand company better

that would require the enemy teams to actually have their maps open sadly.

[Mawlzy]

that would require the enemy teams to actually have their maps open sadly.

Fortunately, players with the capacity to act on the information will have their maps open.

[Talamh]

I want to give my two gil to this.

Remove Battle High.
Remove Recuperate.

There's no reason why every class should have the survivability of a tank through copious amount of sprinting and recuperating.
Elixir is one thing, but the others need to go. They don't make PvP more competitive, they make it tedious as hell.

You cannot 1v1 someone ( Don't say it shouldn't happen, because it does happen at times ) or 2v1 someone, and the otherwise can just recuperate and spring all the way home like nothing.
I honestly miss how old PvP was when we had our class abilities instead of these "eSports PROGAMER" layouts. I have adapted as always, but I don't have to like it.
And I sure as hell don't like Battle High, nor Recuperate.