Unlock crafter & gatherer gear restrictions

[SDaemon]

Already ongoing discussion in this thread.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...s-sets/page172

The day the NA forums consolidates similar things into similar threads will be a sight to behold.

[Naoki34]

It's about time to let us use those sets for other jobs and outfits. It's a bummer, they dish out so many new crafter/gatherer glams, but you can't really use them as they're locked to their specific class. Once you swap to another crafter, it's not gonna work. So why bother locking them?

Before the craft, the least motivated stopped at around level 30. And only the most motivated were doing it, and some were even making it their main activity with an SMN/SCH Job in hand, because they were too lazy to mount more jobs - the practical 2-in-1.

Today, for some time now, it's become so casualized and accessible to everyone. Unlocking Craft Expert books? it's a simple matter of returning collectibles: they xp up and give you enough money to buy your books.

Ditto for Harvesting: return collectibles to Solution Nine and you'll have enough to buy the Books for Legendary Harvesting.


Shouldn't it be even simpler? If you're lazy, go and buy from MarketBoard like everyone else. Crafting is already extremely accessible. If you're motivated, it takes 1 week at most, or 1 or 2 Craft jobs a day. And you benefit from not having to buy them. Since anything you don't buy for your stuff is also money earned.

So much so that prices are dropping almost day one, or should I say week one after patch release. Before Craft used to be reserved for the Elite, to the point where there were FCs that did nothing but craft. Nowadays, these FCs, which make hundreds of millions of gils a day, have disappeared. A blessing in disguise, it was a nuisance, but it existed.



Seriously...

[TaleraRistain]

Only if they unlock adventuring artifact gear so other adventurers and crafters and gatherers can use those looks on their classes.

[Boblawblah]

"It would feel awkward say if a Chef cooked something wearing a blacksmith's apron."

[Rueby]

Honestly, I just had an idea, I'm not even sure if technically it could work, but why not make it so putting stuff in the glamour dresser negates all restrictions, essentially turning all gear inside to function similarly to Lv1 unrestricted gear....It'd save space from accessories that have literally the same model but different roles.

[AddictedToWitches]

As I said in the bigger thread
ALL gear should be universally glammable, YES including artifact gear of all shapes and sizes.
So what if the drachen set is distinguishable as a dragoon only? What if I just want to use the drachen greaves huh? Same for literally everything else
if you earned the gear, and have a job that can equip it, let us glam it to whatever we want
There hasn't been job distinction identity for years and years of crafted level 1 universal glam gear and swimsuits

[Masekase_Hurricane]

As I said in the bigger thread
ALL gear should be universally glammable, YES including artifact gear of all shapes and sizes.
So what if the drachen set is distinguishable as a dragoon only? What if I just want to use the drachen greaves huh? Same for literally everything else
if you earned the gear, and have a job that can equip it, let us glam it to whatever we want
There hasn't been job distinction identity for years and years of crafted level 1 universal glam gear and swimsuits

I don't think that's the problem they are referring to. I think it's not being able to glam each craft/gather to their corresponding AF gear?

[1313]

They disallow this because its a time sink. A time sink for you is a profit for them. This gathering/crafting gear which is locked is endgame gear (or it used to be) so its implemented in a manner that takes forever for you to obtain and be happy with it. SE is now conflicted as one half of the forum rages about job identity while the other half of the community wants to be "cross dressers" and throw job identity out the window (appearance-wise). So, you see, they're damned if they do allow it, and damned if they don't. Now what? Since "does this immediately make me a profit?" is their motto....

[AddictedToWitches]

They disallow this because its a time sink. A time sink for you is a profit for them. This gathering/crafting gear which is locked is endgame gear (or it used to be) so its implemented in a manner that takes forever for you to obtain and be happy with it. SE is now conflicted as one half of the forum rages about job identity while the other half of the community wants to be "cross dressers" and throw job identity out the window (appearance-wise). So, you see, they're damned if they do allow it, and damned if they don't. Now what? Since "does this immediately make me a profit?" is their motto....

I feel like it being a timesink should be the number one reason to allow you to cross-glam it
If you've earned it, you should be able to wear it cosmetically
Reminder that SE has in the past released new gear sets that ae cosmetically the same as an old set, but the pieces have been rearranged to be given to other jobs. Hell, there are version of the sky rat and sky pirate gear that are level 1 crafted and considered universal glam

[ZXN]

The only reason I can really think of why this hasn't been done is simply condensed into the old style notion of "A Job's Identity."

"You're a chef? You should be wearing big hats and gloves and aprons then." "You're a Blacksmith/Armorer? You should be wearing big boots, big gloves, something that covers the eyes or whole head, and an apron." and so on and so forth.

The new Blacksmith exclusive top for example is just a simple chest wrap, but I am sure that A LOT of people would love to use it on combat jobs and other crafters. But we pretty much know it's forever gonna be a Blacksmith exclusive Top unless they magically release an all jobs version of it or finally decide to drop the whole "Job identity" mindset that has been dead for years at this point, and I doubt either will happen anytime soon.

I can understand WHY they keep doing the whole "job exclusive" sets, but it really is just not needed anymore.