Dark Knigh needs some changes

[revan08566]

I am adding this so that the Devs can see yet another person who want some DRK fixes.

Yea, DRK really needs a rework. I think the community understands that massive change can't happen for a while, so short term things that could really help are adding a good chunk of to MP bloodweapon and increasing the potency of abyssal drain heal.

We have to think about what is realistic from a dev perspective in the short term.
If we want to make it more in line with the other tanks, maybe decouple Abyssal Drain from C&S, make AD a 25s cooldown, increase the heal potency, and make the damage trivial enough to not use it in burst windows but still marginally useful in trash.
If the decoupling of the two is too complicated, just reduce the cd to 30 seconds.
It's hacky, but it would work.

Just that would make me really happy in the short term. Yea, the job is still uninteresting for the most part, but this would at least give us something advantageous. It is the worst

Edit: apparently I can't spell Knight*** correctly

[wereotter]

I had been wondering about Abyssal Drain myself recently too. I agree, decouple it from Carve and Spit is the right move to make.

BUT at the risk of making it too homogenous with paladin, I wondered if it might not better be suited to being a third move in their AOE rotation? It may need adjustments to work, but giving dark knight a self heal on every third move of their AOE combo would help with self sustain and bring it more in line with the other three tanks for dungeon runs.

Also to your other point, I don't think decoupling them would be TOO difficult considering when the job launched, the two were separate skills, they were only combined into sharing a cooldown later.

[Zairava]

I had been wondering about Abyssal Drain myself recently too. I agree, decouple it from Carve and Spit is the right move to make.

BUT at the risk of making it too homogenous with paladin, I wondered if it might not better be suited to being a third move in their AOE rotation? It may need adjustments to work, but giving dark knight a self heal on every third move of their AOE combo would help with self sustain and bring it more in line with the other three tanks for dungeon runs.

Please don't actually make it a third step aoe combo.

Just decouple Abyssal Drain from Carve and Spit and either make a 30s CD or make it a spell again please

[wereotter]

Please don't actually make it a third step aoe combo.

Just decouple Abyssal Drain from Carve and Spit and either make a 30s CD or make it a spell again please

I only play the job very casually.... is there a reason dark knight shouldn't have a three move AOE combo? Paladin and gunbreaker already both have a three move combo, and I assumed getting a third move like paladin that restores health every time it's used would be a good thing for sustain in dungeon runs. But I'm willing to learn why that's not a good idea...

[NegativeS]

I only play the job very casually.... is there a reason dark knight shouldn't have a three move AOE combo? Paladin and gunbreaker already both have a three move combo

You just answered your own question.

No good reason to further homogenize the jobs.

[Keagian]

Would rather they returned Abyssal Drain back to being a Ranged Spell like it was in HW and SB. They can make it cost 1000mp to cast so that you don't just spam it and have to decide if you wanna deal more damage with Flood of Shadows or need the extra heal from Abyssal Drain. This will also prevent button bloat of players using it as a ogcd if they decouple it from Carve n Spit during burst windows.

Secondly, they should lower the CD of Blood Weapon/Delirium to 40sec like it was in HW and SB so that we can generate more MP to make up for the lost 2gcd from the buff. Alternatively they could make it a 20sec buff that gives us haste like in SB which made the 123 combo not feel like crap.

[Magikazam]

Just bring back the good old Pre SHB DRK

[Claire_Pendragon]

idk why it cant just cost 3000 MP as a spamable oGCD replacement to adding darkside. it wouldnt be as abusable in boss fights, so it wouldnt really be much of an issue.
(Would prefer GCD, like another person suggested)

[Hanayumi]

Mentioned this in another thread but had a somewhat similar idea...
"Carve and Spit/Abyssal Drain, reduce CD to 30, give 2 charges adjust potency accordingly, C&S increase mp restored, AD remove mp restored & increase hp restored"
Basically a lil more to play around with while restoring mp or hp

[Terhix]

Mentioned this in another thread but had a somewhat similar idea...
"Carve and Spit/Abyssal Drain, reduce CD to 30, give 2 charges adjust potency accordingly, C&S increase mp restored, AD remove mp restored & increase hp restored"
Basically a lil more to play around with while restoring mp or hp

Instead of removing MP from AD, just slap a 600 potency cure on C&S so that they actually are ST/AoE variants of each other. I haven't run the numbers, but my educated guess is that extra 1200p cure per minute would still be less than PLD overall (to say nothing of WAR) but more than enough to catch up to GNB.