Garuda why!

[AdvancedWind]

because it's not.

Come on, let's be fair here. Garuda is a pretty hard fight. No offense intended, but sometimes I get the feel that for many people around here, if their LS farms battle X, then battle X isn't hard.

There are a lot of players struggling against Gaurda and to even have a shot at starting getting wins the "average" player pretty much needs to get a consistent, good static party and spend a few days throwing themselves at it.

I swear it, as soon as more people start farming Ifrit Extreme, it won't be "hard" anymore

[Alkimi]

Problem is the average player in this game is terrible, particularly on Ragnarok for some reason. I've done some pickups of Garuda out of morbid curiosity and I've counted too many BLMs rocking up in 5/5 AF and Aubriest's Whisper thinking they're going to stand the slightest chance.

If you try saying to them in the nicest way possible that their gear is terrible 90% of them just overreact and call you elitist.

[AdvancedWind]

Problem is the average player in this game is terrible, particularly on Ragnarok for some reason. I've done some pickups of Garuda out of morbid curiosity and I've counted too many BLMs rocking up in 5/5 AF and Aubriest's Whisper thinking they're going to stand the slightest chance.

If you try saying to them in the nicest way possible that their gear is terrible 90% of them just overreact and call you elitist.

I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate bad players (and PUGs are one of the most effective ways to find em), but I don't know...I just have the feel that, at least on these forums, you're forbidden to say that, hey, content X is hard. If you dare do that, be ready for people "correcting" you on a good day or downright question your playing abilities on a bad one.

Garuda specifically is two tiers above any other boss in the game bar IfEx, first phase (specially if skipping phase two) is a somewhat heavy gear check, second phase is so annoying that most LS strategies revolve around skipping it and clones require reasonably good tanking, positioning and plain HP burning skills to defeat.

It's not ball crushingly, "gotta try 100+ times to win" hard, and once you get the hang of it can be farmed without too much problem, but still is quite decently hard imo.

And before anyone checks to "discredit" my opnion, yes, I haven't beat her yet, it's on my plans. Tried very few times since I don't really have time to join my LS runs, sadly.

[Rau]

I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate bad players (and PUGs are one of the most effective ways to find em), but I don't know...I just have the feel that, at least on these forums, you're forbidden to say that, hey, content X is hard. If you dare do that, be ready for people "correcting" you on a good day or downright question your playing abilities on a bad one.

Garuda specifically is two tiers above any other boss in the game bar IfEx, first phase (specially if skipping phase two) is a somewhat heavy gear check, second phase is so annoying that most LS strategies revolve around skipping it and clones require reasonably good tanking, positioning and plain HP burning skills to defeat.

It's not ball crushingly, "gotta try 100+ times to win" hard, and once you get the hang of it can be farmed without too much problem, but still is quite decently hard imo.

And before anyone checks to "discredit" my opnion, yes, I haven't beat her yet, it's on my plans. Tried very few times since I don't really have time to join my LS runs, sadly.

It's a gear/howmanskillsyoucanmashinto7minutes check. Unfortunately, a number of players can't keep up with that. The fight isn't impossible with AF. It just takes longer, and the longer the fight is, the more chances there are to make mistakes, making it harder to win. IMO, it is one of my favorite fights in the game, and I hope they don't change it because there is nothing wrong it as is.

However, when someone does come in and shit all over people who say it is difficult, I can imagine it is disheartening to be told "you suck lolol"

[Alkel]

Problem is the average player in this game is terrible, particularly on Ragnarok for some reason. .

We see many LS during ou Garuda run who are able to beat Garuda. So there is also a good amount of capable players on ragnarok

But for sure, garuda is not the kind of thing you can do pickup like ifrit or mog.

In order to succed, we had to work the strat during a long time with a solid group and now we are training other LS members one by one.

And i 100% agreee, full AF BLM cant succed in this fight, since most of the group doing it are skipping the laggy phase2.

[yoshikwalla]

Yeah, it's pretty damn hard. Easier than Darnus, but HAAARD.

I'm not even going to bother with primal weapons... going for skirmish + 25k gc, then slowly working on relic. :< I'm not doing this because I can't do it (I can, though it would take hours)... it's just the drop rate is stupid and I'd rather spend time socializing and joking around with my guild while casually doing caravans than fighting an OP boss for hours while my guild racks their respective brains.

And after spending 3 days failing nonstop at beating Darnus before finally beating him with a team that had the drive to finally succeed, I'm taking a while to relax and do the side missions and whatnot.

[Reeruru]

Yeah, I'm having trouble with Garuda as well... I don't have a static so I try and teach PUG groups. It's definatly a fight that requires a lot of practice and team work. Its hard to find that with random people, especially it one members experience is higher than the others and can't understand why others are having a tough time with it. Best thing to do is to just keep practicing with the same people and one day you'll nail it.

[Doho]

Yeah, it's pretty damn hard. Easier than Darnus, but HAAARD.

That's funny! I find Darnus way easier than Garuda. Yaaay that must mean i'm not as bad as I thought I was lol.

[Forerunner]

That's funny! I find Darnus way easier than Garuda. Yaaay that must mean i'm not as bad as I thought I was lol.

Yay for us. Darnus was a cakewalk compared with Garuda, more fun to do too.

[Krausus]

I don't understand why this fight is so damn hard. Is there a logical reason why with only missing 1 plume during phase one she still deals 3500 dmg to everyone in the pt? What are we doing wrong??? I guess for those who were able to get on the BLM ban-waggon and get all their weapons in 1 sitting congratulations the rest of us have to deal with not understanding why even with near perfect plum clear we still wipe to AB. I'm so over this shit.

Just keep at it the more rocks sections that are up the less damage you take from AB. We use 1 WHM, PLD, 2 BLM, 2 BRD, 1 DRG and for the 8th it all depends on what they want to play we will either go in with a 3rd BLM (not needed but speeds up the first phase) or a DRG/MNK. BRD and a DRG are beast at clearing plumes fast but usually we will have the BRDs only clearing them until the last wave of plumes. Once you consistently survive her AB you can then work on timed nuking to skip phase 2 and go directly to add phase.