Where is the gameplay?

[Rehayem]

Lazy events: check
Cash shop focused announcements: check
Mobile FFXIV in the making: check
Lack of moderation: check
Feedback keeps getting ignored: check
Complete homogenization of jobs and lack of innovation: check

Have I been teleported back in time to Aion or something?

[Jojoya]

Dawntrail has been criticised heavily for having the least amount of gameplay of any expansion, slowly turning more into a visual novel than an actual RPG game.

Same complain has been made for years. It's not a new one.

The new summer event is two quests, where the only "gameplay" element is running between npcs and using 2 emotes. What happened to interactive events? Other MMOs do it, why can't FFXIV? Even FFXI, SE's 22 year old MMO had more involved events than FFXIV does.

I agree I miss the interactive activities during the seasonal events. There's nothing wrong with bringing back some of the old ones that weren't specific to the event's story for the year.

I acknowledge that there is a climbing mini-game, but it's just kinda... there. There is no reason or reward to do it, and it's not even included as a part of the quest for the event.

There is a reason to do it - to have fun seeing if you can get to the top. To socialize and cheer on other jumpers.

It doesn't need a better reward. It doesn't need to be part of a quest.

Learn to embrace life and do things just for the sheer joy of the experience instead of turning everything you do into a job that requires compensation.

[Balmung_Griffin]

Meanwhile, during LL more and more time is dedicated on merchandise, Veteran Rewards died so things can go direct to cash shop.

I'm sure all this money is going right back into the game!

[caffe_macchiato]

Nothing will change and you will stay subscribed. The divide between the shills and the honest people will grow until you can't go anywhere without a textual diarrhea of strawmen.

Megacorporations aren't on your side and Yoshida isn't your friend. He is a salesman selling you a product and you buy it every month.

[Wildheaven182]

FFXIV has been in early access for ten years.

[Heavenchild]

For me it feels like that at the moment FF14 is just a good game for new players. For all long term players..., it hurts me to say this, but.. it's so boring...

I guess one problem is the repeating formula. It's not fun to do the same basic stuff every expansion again. For example leveling stuff again, running the same ex dungeons for poetics and so on. I did this stuff several expansions but my motivation for example to level crafters/gatherers and craft the new armour is long gone.

So I stand here, after the MSQ, without a static and still with nothing 'interesting' to do. :/

So..., I finally got Zelda Tears of the Kingdom. Finally something to do!

[Sivante]

Yeah, the treadmill is great for streamers and dev's, but... frankly speaking super boring for players. You can trust that there won't be innovation, or any exciting changes.

[Voidmage]

I've played since Heavensward and the last time I remember them actually doing something cool was either in Heavensward or Stormblood when there was an old school style dungeon crawler where you talked to NPCs that represented the devs. They've been phoning it in on events since Shadowbringers, which means they've been slacking on them for 3 expansions.

I don’t disagree that they are slacking but I absolutely do with the stance that all this was always like that.

The Papa Gruff and Halloween dungeon also was not in Stormblood but later as far as I remember.

They HAVE done better in the past that’s what I am saying because I am absolutely annoyed in that whole “eh, was always like that” take.

We should expect quality and not defend that stuff with apathy. That’s the entire reason I post here because I KNOW they can do better and if people would stop responding to trolls and end their little infighting here there might actually be a chance to have more structured threads like the “live letter and what we wish from it” one.
Maybe then it would all amount to more than playing don quijote.

[GreenLeafy]

The Papa Gruff and Halloween dungeon also was not in Stormblood but later as far as I remember.

Had some recordings of it still on my pc , it was from 3 years ago - All Saint's Wake 2021 that got delayed and pushed into January/February because of working on Endwalker. :') That event was so fun.

[RinaB]

Alright everyone, that's quite enough. Go talk to wuk lamat