Nothing will get fixed if the community allows culture warriors to seize control

[HighlanderClone]

How much do you want to bet that SE now believes people dissatisfied about Wuk Lamat are all just people who are more interested in wokeness or anti-wokeness or culture war BS?

The community needs to speak up and say: no, this isn't us.

99% of people dissatisfied with Wuk Lamat are dissatisfied about the poor writing, poor characterization, poor quality control, poor pacing, and frankly what is an extremely obvious siphoning of resources to let junior devs helm the ship so senior devs can make some other third project that none of us paid for.

It's time to denounce people who want to twist criticisms into culture war BS and focus on the issues: the horrible job designs, the lackluster undertuned raids, the atrocious story, and broken, poorly thought out systems like DC travel.

[Volgia]

What's a culture warrior?

[HighlanderClone]

What's a culture warrior?

People who want to talk about whatever is the latest outrage on Twitter, almost always about identity politics.

Identity politics is not the reason DC travel is so broken. Not the reason you can clear M4S with 5 deaths and not even see enrage on day 3. Not the reason the story is so poorly written it reads more like something you see on Wattpad. Not the reason job design is so creatively bankrupt you have several jobs getting a new flashy animation and that's pretty much the extent of their upgrades for DT.

But no, everyone just wants to talk about the VA drama.

[Volgia]

People who want to talk about whatever is the latest outrage on Twitter, almost always about identity politics.

Identity politics is not the reason DC travel is so broken. Not the reason you can clear M4S with 5 deaths and not even see enrage on day 3. Not the reason the story is so poorly written it reads more like something you see on Wattpad. Not the reason job design is so creatively bankrupt you have several jobs getting a new flashy animation and that's pretty much the extent of their upgrades for DT.

But no, everyone just wants to talk about the VA drama.

I think your anger is misplaced. Sometimes when criticizing these things today (which, tbh, has been a thing since the release of Shadowbringers) you will always find some dude bringing out that the reason this happened is because Square Enix invested way too much money in the "ethics" department and the conversation will devolve from there.

As for the story, this hatred for the MSQ was up in EW, SB and even ShB at some point. If you don't believe me just look in the forums.

For instance ... EW is bad: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/470440

[Reimmi]

I think your anger is misplaced. Sometimes when criticizing these things today (which, tbh, has been a thing since the release of Shadowbringers) you will always find some dude bringing out that the reason this happened is because Square Enix invested way too much money in the "ethics" department and the conversation will devolve from there.

As for the story, this hatred for the MSQ was up in EW, SB and even ShB at some point. If you don't believe me just look in the forums.

For instance ... EW is bad: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/470440

EW was nowhere *near* this level of criticism of the msq, there was like, 1 single megathread. Dawntrail has dozens and one that has already approached the EW thread

[Volgia]

EW was nowhere *near* this level of criticism of the msq, there was like, 1 single megathread. Dawntrail has dozens and one that has already approached the EW thread

Please, there was thread after thread. Then the Post MSQ was teared to shreds, then you got all the content creators saying that the expansion was horribly boring. People saying that the devs tried to gaslight us into liking Venat, people hating on Zero, lol.

[Raven2014]

Please, there was thread after thread.

No there wasn't.

Then the Post MSQ was teared to shreds

irrelevant because no one is talking about DT's post MSq, or you're trying to be unfair on purpose?

[wildvenonat]

Wuk Lamat is a good character and the story was enjoyable. Do you really need to have multiple threads about how much you hate Wuk Lamat?

[SophiaDL]

Wuk Lamat is a good character and the story was enjoyable. Do you really need to have multiple threads about how much you hate Wuk Lamat?

That's almost like, your opinion

[Raven2014]

Wuk Lamat is a good character and the story was enjoyable. Do you really need to have multiple threads about how much you hate Wuk Lamat?

Well, doesn't the fact those threads exist tell you their necessity, or at least who how strong the sentiment.

I remember back in EW, the forums were flooded with positive threads, did you have problem with that? Or you only take issue when it's negative?

If one end of the spectrum exist, it's only natural for the others to exist as well.

After all, you're free to make as many thread as you want to express your positive vibe. Like I said, a lot of people did that for EW, why don't you now?