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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    The snapshot on it seems a little over-eager at times, so if you have to book it more than a few steps to swap sides you may be in trouble, yeah; I've seen people move and die as they move.

    But, as you observe, if you stay right smack beside the line it's fairly easy to shift safely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    For what it's worth, the vast majority of telegraphed attacks in this game are instant snapshots rather than sustained damage; in those cases, you can move in before the animation is complete, because the damage has already been calculated/resolved when the animation started. (And yes, this is one of those.)

    I say "the vast majority" because there are exceptions. But if you get used to dodging into mechanics after they go off but before the animation is done, you will very quickly find the handful of exceptions scattered throughout the game. Trust me on that; I speak from experience here.
    Got it! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain and the thorough explanation. I really appreciate it.

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    This is a good read I will copy this down and read it many times ty ...... best answer <----------
    Thank you for making this thread. I honestly would have never thought to ask about this here, had you not made this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinku_Tachi View Post
    Got it! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain and the thorough explanation. I really appreciate it.
    Always glad to help! As I've said in in a thread from back in Shadowbringers, most of the mechanics in this game are like stage magic; they're made to look complicated and confusing, but have a fairly simple answer. And generally, if folks are feeling puzzled, there's plenty of other players willing to pull aside the curtain and show how the trick is done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Leaving aside whether or not M4N is difficult or not -- because that's going to be something of a subjective measure -- and just focusing on your lament about how to read the "3/4 of the arena is vanishing" mechanic...

    When she finally finishes making the gun and swings it around to aim at the arena, she will be aiming slightly to the east or west. If she's aiming west, the three western columns will be going away; the far east column will be safe. If she's aiming east, the opposite is true; it's the west-most column that's safe. You can thus stand right on the center line in front of her as she starts to prepare her gun, wait, and book it to the safe side as soon as you see her take aim. The first couple of hits actually don't actually hit that hard, so what's important is just to make it to the safe side before that last hit (and the floor going away).

    If you mean the shifting back and forth on the safe one, she just telegraphs it ahead of time with sort of aiming circles; it's easy to start on the side opposite the first circle, and then just sort of tell yourself "Swap" or "Stay." For the four and five hit variants, there will always be only one "Stay," so a five-hit one might be "Swap, Swap, Stay, Swap" --- coming up with that in your head will make it a lot easier.

    To elaborate slightly -- she'll be standing right on the dividing line between two of the 'squares' on the floor, and you'll see a sort of targeting circle appear on one or the other end of the gun; if you turn your camera so you are looking directly across the arena, you'll see the circles to either the left or right side of your screen. That's the side she's going to hit; you can immediately position yourself on the opposite side of that dividing line.

    After that, you just look at whether the circle is on the same side as the previous one ("Stay") or the opposite side ("Swap"). Since there will be at most four moves -- you've already parked yourself in the safe spot for the first hit -- and only one of those is going to be "Stay" it is (hypothetically) easy enough to remember the pattern, like the "Swap, Swap, Stay, Swap" that I mentioned above.
    *strokes chin*hmmm, We the people of bad explanations agree that this is a excellent explanation. *smashes with stamp of approval.*
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    Being serious now, I absolutely struggle with the same part.

    Every time.

    I just suck at it, and I'll probably never get it right 100%.

    The only time I ever get it right is if I'm right at the line to move between the front and the back. If I move a little too far when dodging, I'm cooked, without fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinku_Tachi View Post
    The only time I ever get it right is if I'm right at the line to move between the front and the back. If I move a little too far when dodging, I'm cooked, without fail.
    The snapshot on it seems a little over-eager at times, so if you have to book it more than a few steps to swap sides you may be in trouble, yeah; I've seen people move and die as they move.

    But, as you observe, if you stay right smack beside the line it's fairly easy to shift safely.
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    lmao just follow someone if its normal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    lmao just follow someone if its normal
    I died many times following only works if follower knows where he/she is going ughhhh this doesn't help at all ...
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    MK4 beat !!

    We died 3 times when I told the group what this community told me 1 22 1 and after I said 1 22 1 we beat it ... I have a heart felt appreciation for this forum, thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    We died 3 times when I told the group what this community told me 1 22 1 and after I said 1 22 1 we beat it ... I have a heart felt appreciation for this forum, thank you
    Congratulations on your success Sage! ^_^
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