I Love the Endwalker Relic Series

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Endwalker expac does not have a relic. They have a sidegrade, 2nd tomestone weapon lmao.

Calling the Mandervilles as relic is such a disgrace. I can't believe the dev even proudly mention their higher engagement metric at the time. No sh!t lol, they were given away for 'free'. They can give us DT Relic if we log in by 7.55 as a login bonus. That oughta give them the 100% engagement metric that they care so much. /s

Do better, SE.

[Syln]

I'll take the bait, those weapons weren't relic, those were boring tomestones weapons with a story quest attached to it.

It a was lazy, obvious low budget content, since instead of giving us a separate Hildibrand quest line + a decent relic quest/system we got that weird amalgamation of both. This was nothing more than a disgrace when it come to what was ff14 standard in term of content.

And I'm not a ARR relic grind enjoyer either, i actually hated it and only completed it once over a 8 years span, Heavensward got it right, Stormblood was even better, Shadowbringer was on par even though i still prefer Eureka.

I don't care if it's grindy or not, i just want it to be entertaining and fun for a while.

[Voidmage]

I think the Bozja system was actually good and just needed a bit more fine tuning.

The first relic is a time sink and others are faster to get,
Make it so you can either grind materials or buy them with tomestones. Just make it so it doesn‘t go either way too much.

The relics have always been easy too get but required you to invest time.
They showed that you have been ready to take the time and do sometimes painful grinding and that gave a certain level of pride in having that weapon.

The reason people didn‘t like the EW way was because they LIKED the time sink.
They LIKED showing of the weapon and the time it took to get it.
Changing that changed the target audience and that just shouldn‘t happen.

Either they try to make both sides happy again or they need to add content for those who like to have a casual grind and show off the prize that comes with that.

This is an mmo. Grind is part of the fun for some of us.

[CaptainLagbeard]

The Endwalker relics are better futureproofed than Eureka and Bozja at least are... Unless they've nerfed them so hard that you can relatively easily solo everything in there nowadays to get through it all.

[Supersnow845]

The Endwalker relics are better futureproofed than Eureka and Bozja at least are... Unless they've nerfed them so hard that you can relatively easily solo everything in there nowadays to get through it all.

Who cares about future proofing old glam weapons that are still accessible

If all content is made as accessible as the EW relics to future proof them we won’t have any content to begin with

[Ramiee]

Very bad relic series made having a bis weapon a joke and not a reward for people who either grinded a relic or did savage.

[koko-on-da-forumz]

Classic XIV player mentality.

The sooner I can stop playing and zone out, the better.

[Valkyrie-Veil]

As a proud filthy casual, I like them, too

I already grind my job, why would I want to grind in a game too

That’s the great thing; you don’t have to! You could just not do the grind and not get the relic. It’s not something you need. You can just get the tomestone weapon instead.

The relics are traditionally for people who want something to grind for, and I would appreciate SE not taking that away from me a second time.

[Lyth]

Acquisition methods aside, it would be nice to have a set of relic weapons worth caring about. I know that it's difficult with 21 weapons, but ending the final step on 'adjective weapontype' feels uninspired compared to the likes of Excalibur and Ragnarok. It feels strange that we've already used up a batch of unique names like Sargatanas and Angel Brush on the Lv. 99 weapons only to inevitably end up with generic weapon names on the final relic step.

ARR definitely had the best weapon effects.