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  1. #11
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I like how you look at this graph and see the state of Phys range and your takeaway is "MORE BLM DAMAGE".
    Poor Machinist just wants a scrap bone....
    (3)

  2. #12
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    LilyPendragon's Avatar
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    Jasnah Kohlin
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I like how you look at this graph and see the state of Phys range and your takeaway is "MORE BLM DAMAGE".
    I mean it should absolutely be doing more than a job with an aoe shield and an indom.

    Though the big issue is how it still kinda feels like ass to play
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  3. #13
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    To all the fellas saying "but its only like a 2% difference" you are missing the point.

    Black Mage with zero native utility other than Addle performs for less than Pictomancer which has a group-wide damage buff, a group-wide shield on a 90s CD and an AOE heal during burst. It is also significantly more difficult / punishing to play than Pictomancer.

    Completely ignoring the melees, Black Mage is being grossly outperformed in every category in its own role (Caster). It doesnt matter if its 2%, 5% or 1% - it is less than the non-raise utility caster.
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  4. #14
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    BLM requires more effort than its worth damage wise. Its just easier to play another job really.
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  5. #15
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Character
    Kinda Hungry
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    To all the fellas saying "but its only like a 2% difference" you are missing the point.

    Black Mage with zero native utility other than Addle performs for less than Pictomancer which has a group-wide damage buff, a group-wide shield on a 90s CD and an AOE heal during burst. It is also significantly more difficult / punishing to play than Pictomancer.

    Completely ignoring the melees, Black Mage is being grossly outperformed in every category in its own role (Caster). It doesnt matter if its 2%, 5% or 1% - it is less than the non-raise utility caster.

    Not sure why people find this confusing. BLM was doing crazy DPS in EW after buffs. I remember distinctly arguing for the buffs and people told me me no, that it would destroy the game. Yet as we saw, BLM usage barely increased and SMN still pretty much dominated (at the time). People will not flock to BLM based on DpS. But the will flock to an easier job as long as it does enough DPS to clear, and bonus points for utility/res.
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  6. #16
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    So it's about a 2% difference from the top DPS, yeah?
    Yeah thats the problem, with how absurdly difficult blm is it should be number 1 always lmao
    it brings no res like smn/rdm, and no group utiltiy like picto.
    (2)

  7. #17
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    Eraden's Avatar
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LilyPendragon View Post
    I mean it should absolutely be doing more than a job with an aoe shield and an indom.

    Though the big issue is how it still kinda feels like ass to play
    Mao agrees. Main problem is that BLMs now more rigids and nots flexibles enough to lets players enjoy DT fights. This requires more fixings than just uppings potencies little bits. EW design was MUCH more flexibles and could has handled DT fights.
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  8. #18
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    To all the fellas saying "but its only like a 2% difference" you are missing the point.

    Black Mage with zero native utility other than Addle performs for less than Pictomancer which has a group-wide damage buff, a group-wide shield on a 90s CD and an AOE heal during burst. It is also significantly more difficult / punishing to play than Pictomancer.

    Completely ignoring the melees, Black Mage is being grossly outperformed in every category in its own role (Caster). It doesnt matter if its 2%, 5% or 1% - it is less than the non-raise utility caster.
    Be carefuls! Peoples gonna come in here and whine that Pictos has no "utilitys".
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  9. #19
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    FudoMyoo's Avatar
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    Fudo Myoo
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    fuck my poor summoner. WE NEED 50% BUFFS!!!
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Khulan Noir
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    All I see here is RDM/SMN and the phys ranged need love. Machinist is really going through it there.
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