Loot System for Savage

[Raven2014]

What do you think? Should it stay as it is or should further adjustments be made?

- Comparing to what it's used to be before (pre-coffer, pre-tomestone beft), it's already very generous.

- FF14's system is the MOST generous system in any of the MMO I've ever played, and I've played most of them.

So here is the question for you: what will the bottom limit on where the system should be? Because I'm 99.9999% sure that even if SE take one more step, you or someone like you will still gonna complain it's not fair enough until you'll get guarantee loot ... which I don't think will happen. I won't say I wish it doesn't happen, but I can say I don't care if it happens.

Lastly, I do think people should be honest about "I want quick and easy loot" instead of pretending it's a fairness issue.

[CaedemSanguis]

- Comparing to what it's used to be before (pre-coffer, pre-tomestone beft), it's already very generous.

- FF14's system is the MOST generous system in any of the MMO I've ever played, and I've played most of them.

So here is the question for you: what will the bottom limit on where the system should be? Because I'm 99.9999% sure that even if SE take one more step, you or someone like you will still gonna complain it's not fair enough until you'll get guarantee loot ... which I don't think will happen. I won't say I wish it doesn't happen, but I can say I don't care if it happens.

Lastly, I do think people should be honest about "I want quick and easy loot" instead of pretending it's a fairness issue.

quick yes
easy no

you still need to clear/reclear each turns, having to wait only make it boring

[CamuiKushi]

I think it's fine as is, but books should unlock that gear type for any job IMO. So you get all your books and unlock the fending chest, you can also grab the healing chest too etc.
Still takes the same amount of time to get geared up, but you gear up everything.

Failing that, maybe have follow up pieces discounted... or something?

[RagiForzando]

Not exactly sure how it could be facilitated, but I'd love to help people out after I do my own clears without ending up costing people loot. That's about the only change I'd like to see.

[tsuchii]

Agreed. I really dislike the rng WITH the item limit aspect.

But keep in mind this is designed so people keep playing on weekly reset and keeping their subscriptions active.

[AddictedToWitches]

It's pretty bad if you PF yeah because you're unfortunately not guaranteed to get what you need outside of a static. No idea why they never did away with the limited chests thing and just made it like normal raids where you can get one thing per fight per week.

[LilyPendragon]

Stay as is. Look, this is just how it works - getting shafted and not getting the drop is part of the MMO lifestyle. But it makes the wins sweeter and keeps people engaged with the content.

Don't take this the wrong way, but this post drips with some form of Stockholm syndrome lol.

Imagine actively wanting to be shafted by something completely out of your control.

And 'it's always been this way' isn't a valid defense

[Andevom]

Don't take this the wrong way, but this post drips with some form of Stockholm syndrome lol.

Imagine actively wanting to be shafted by something completely out of your control.

And 'it's always been this way' isn't a valid defense

No one *wants* to get shafted. My point is it feels much more satisfying when you get something than if it was just guaranteed. Giving it to everyone every time makes the game dull.

If it was something you needed to get first before you could actively do certain content, that'd be another thing. But it's not.

[CaedemSanguis]

No one *wants* to get shafted. My point is it feels much more satisfying when you get something than if it was just guaranteed. Giving it to everyone every time makes the game dull.

If it was something you needed to get first before you could actively do certain content, that'd be another thing. But it's not.

the point is that the gear is already easy to get, I dont feel any satisfaction when getting raid gear

yet it is very boring for me to wait for 10-12 weeks in order to have 2 bis jobs

[Andevom]

the point is that the gear is already easy to get, I dont feel any satisfaction when getting raid gear

yet it is very boring for me to wait for 10-12 weeks in order to have 2 bis jobs

What content will you do once you have BiS?