Nothing will get fixed if the community allows culture warriors to seize control

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Nothing will change if we allow rmt botters to troll post on the forums either, yet here we are.

[wildvenonat]

Well, doesn't the fact those threads exist tell you their necessity, or at least who how strong the sentiment.

There are multiple threads by literally the same person.

[Volgia]

People who want to talk about whatever is the latest outrage on Twitter, almost always about identity politics.

Identity politics is not the reason DC travel is so broken. Not the reason you can clear M4S with 5 deaths and not even see enrage on day 3. Not the reason the story is so poorly written it reads more like something you see on Wattpad. Not the reason job design is so creatively bankrupt you have several jobs getting a new flashy animation and that's pretty much the extent of their upgrades for DT.

But no, everyone just wants to talk about the VA drama.

I think your anger is misplaced. Sometimes when criticizing these things today (which, tbh, has been a thing since the release of Shadowbringers) you will always find some dude bringing out that the reason this happened is because Square Enix invested way too much money in the "ethics" department and the conversation will devolve from there.

As for the story, this hatred for the MSQ was up in EW, SB and even ShB at some point. If you don't believe me just look in the forums.

For instance ... EW is bad: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/470440

[HighlanderClone]

As for the story, this hatred for the MSQ was up in EW, SB and even ShB at some point. If you don't believe me just look in the forums.

Criticisms will always exist but the magnitude is far more substantial this time round. Please don't make a false equivalence.

[Thurmnmurmn]

I think your anger is misplaced. Sometimes when criticizing these things today (which, tbh, has been a thing since the release of Shadowbringers) you will always find some dude bringing out that the reason this happened is because Square Enix invested way too much money in the "ethics" department and the conversation will devolve from there.

As for the story, this hatred for the MSQ was up in EW, SB and even ShB at some point. If you don't believe me just look in the forums.

A quick look at review scores proves the MSQ hate is way worst with DT. And it's warranted. The story in DT is filled with issues.
I won't beat a dead horse and repeat them all though. We already have hundreds of pages fully explaining why people didn't like the story.

[Caitlinzulu]

That's almost like, your opinion

Its my opinion too. I got no issues with story or VA as a whole. Some quests perhaps werent to my liking and some lines could bave been done better prop but on the whole i am happy.

[gllt]

The garbage graphics update severely impacted the accessibility of this game and it's atrocious. The constant glow makes it feel like I'm in a casino and so does the way Square gambles away my sub money.

[Caitlinzulu]

A quick look at review scores proves the MSQ hate is way worst with DT. And it's warranted. The story in DT is filled with issues.
I won't beat a dead horse and repeat them all though. We already have hundreds of pages fully explaining why people didn't like the story.

Review scores are a bad way to judge appreciation. You only have to look at the principle of review bombing. Also arent you more motivated to put it in a review ifyou have something you dont like? People who ate satisfied just play the game.

[Volgia]

Criticisms will always exist but the magnitude is far more substantial this time round. Please don't make a false equivalence.

I mean I guess you weren't there to see the 1000 pages detailing on how Endwalker MSQ was the worst of the worst. I don't know where the false equivalence here is, but let me tell you, you hang out for long in these forums, that are just a sewage of complaints and echo chamber, and you're very likely to be infected with it's negativity.

This is just me trying to reach out if you're really arguing in good faith here. You might not like Dawntrail for a bunch of reasons, but it's wrong to say the magnitude of doom wasn't the same.

[Maxilor]

Thank God.

The other thread got deleted by the mods and I started crying because I lost my entertaining reading material.

Thank you, Titanman.