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  1. #891
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    Aniise's Avatar
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    Nhaama Kagon
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post


    Does she really think posting absolute garbage like that will be beneficial to her in any way, shape or form?
    Or rather, does she even think at all????

    I'm seriously starting to doubt the sanity of this...person. There is something wrong with her and it's showing. And I'm sure those awful takes aren't even the tip of the iceberg. She's gonna keep going until she has pulled the games name into the mud once and for all.
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    Me too, Erenville, me too

  2. #892
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    The irony is that Sena is closer to being Praetorium Gaius than Wuk Lamat.
    Does that make her Creepy Mendacity? Such detestation.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  3. #893
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    Kikoten's Avatar
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    Lucky Tails
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    My only complaint about the VA is the low quality. This VA needs some lessons, go to some damn classes--something. I don't care who they are or what they identify as, I just want a good VA with good quality work. Someone who actually earned the part.
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

  4. #894
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    Honestly her recent insults towards the fanbase deserve a separate thread to spread visibility. This is originally a thread about the (alleged) death threats she's unfortunately (allegedly) received, followed by 80 pages of politics on trans issues.

    Her horrible behaviour and lack of professionalism have little to nothing to do with her gender identity.
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  5. #895
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willemdarke View Post
    Honestly her recent insults towards the fanbase deserve a separate thread to spread visibility. This is originally a thread about the (alleged) death threats she's unfortunately (allegedly) received, followed by 80 pages of politics on trans issues.

    Her horrible behaviour and lack of professionalism have little to nothing to do with her gender identity.
    The thread started with Sena's Twitter engagement farming and has gone full circle.
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    Last edited by lolnotacat; 08-14-2024 at 05:20 PM. Reason: typo

  6. #896
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    ViaDesperare's Avatar
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    Keithgriff Kiesling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willemdarke View Post
    Honestly her recent insults towards the fanbase deserve a separate thread to spread visibility. This is originally a thread about the (alleged) death threats she's unfortunately (allegedly) received, followed by 80 pages of politics on trans issues.

    Her horrible behaviour and lack of professionalism have little to nothing to do with her gender identity.
    Eh, I would be worried about Kate abusing her power to ban people who end up making a thread about Sena though. Although if that does happen, you could use that to leverage for bigger news CC to pick it up. Hasn't Kate abused her power to shut down threads or ban people before? Read about it online but I have no evidence on that. If only Karious was here, pretty sure that dude knows more about that topic.
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    #WukLamatMustDie ---Join Us--- https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/507165-WukLamatMustDie

  7. #897
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    I think it's concerning how much this person is leaning into their role. Most VA's do the work, and then from time to time do little interviews or sometimes cameos. Wuk's actress though seems to think that they're one and the same, deciding themselves what Wuk should or should not say. That's not for the VA to decide, that's for the writers to decide. You're just there to read the lines you're told to read, not give any input on the actual character itself. The character isnt real. You are not your character.

    The character you accepted the job to voice does not think anything that you think. The writer doesn't even know you.
    I think it's this sort of ego driven delusion that's constantly feeding this steady decline in their mental health. They went from seemingly just seeing it as a neat little gig, to engaging with the fandom constantly, crying about money woes and wedging in their thoughts on how customers are allowed to feel about what they bought and played though as if their thoughts carried any weight to begin with, which they don't. You are Sena, in real life. Not WukLamant-P. Notice how all the other VA's got their check and kept it pushing. I don't see any of the others writing up "spicy takes" on characters in relation to their job. It's just so unprofessional and weird.
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  8. #898
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    Aexnidaral's Avatar
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    Yrys Huorlwesfv
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    I don't really enjoy piling on, and Wuk Lamat's VA has had to deal with a number of extraordinarily awful interactions with fans that I would be remiss not to preface this with. I'm not sure if this is really the appropriate thread to post this in given some of the... rather unsavory comments people have made here that, frankly, they should be ashamed of; but I see no other relevant thread to discuss this issue in, especially considering this is already happening here.

    That said, really can't ignore her recent tweet. I think that it is deeply unprofessional, as well as disingenuous, to purposefully tweet a very vague statement that "certain people" are somehow "racist" if they don't like Smile, and then further double down on the insidious initial tweet by following it with a dismissive and snarky "wow, weird how people are getting so defensive!" tweet. Honestly I think Smile is one of the worst songs in the whole game. The vocals are not good, and it is ill fitting for almost every scene its used in. Compared to its similar equivalents in things like Dragonsong, Revolutions, Tomorrow and Tomorrow, and Flow I think it's astoundingly bad. While I am sure there are some people out there who see more similarities between "Smile" and Black Gospel, I really don't outside of the choir. I'm sure there are a very small, minute, tiny portion of players who are racist and connect this song to Black Gospel and therefore dislike it... but that number has got to be incredibly infinitesimal; and to be punching at shadows over what is functionally artificially generated outrage with pretty bombastic rhetoric is unprofessional at best, and deliberately inflammatory at worst.

    I enjoyed Wuk Lamat as a character! She has the "Naruto" vibe that I've always thought was endearing. I also think her VA largely did a good job, and most of the complaints I have about Wuk's ENG voice are more an issue with voice direction than the VA! Unfortunately we live in an age where it's often hard to avoid certain things if you're in a fandom. Even though I don't follow her on eX-Twitter I still wind up seeing many of her tweets as they're reposted by mutuals, etc. and while she is no stranger to making heavy rhetoric, bombastic statements this really crosses a line for me. It's unfortunate to me, too, because I don't want my dislike of what a characters VA has said or done to color my perception of a character I otherwise genuinely like, but I think this really hit my threshold. I hope they recast Wuk Lamat in English if they intend to make more use of her, or just retire her character entirely.

    I hope she sees the genuine pushback she's received for these tweets and takes it to heart, at least more than the sycophantic enablers who seem to think this kind of escalatory rhetoric is acceptable; and learns from this experience to understand that the words and language we use has meaning, engaging in this kind of rhetoric is helpful to absolutely no one even if you mean well.
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  9. #899
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    Qiaomei Midas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    I’d say the hole she’s digging keeps getting deeper but so far there’s no consequences happening so it seems more like she’s digging up gold so she just keeps going. Honestly calling Gaius a coloniser isn’t the worst, with what the Garleans original game plan was its par for the course. I’m more side-eying the “Wuk is a precious ray of sunshine so she’d never ever say anything bad.”

    Is that a hint if we get more Wuk in the future it’s just gonna be more sunshine and rainbows and talk-no-jutsu? Guess we’re just gonna talk around the whole we killed your monarchs and installed a child king, or is that standard ruling under
    precious cinnamon roll princesses?

    Also since her usual voice is just un-accented Wuk Lamat her doing Gaius monologue “casually” doesn’t seem like it’d be different if she put on the Wuk voice? I didn’t listen to clip so grain of salt take. And also if it’s Gaius speech is bad why even do a casual take of it???
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  10. #900
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papayatar View Post
    I’d say the hole she’s digging keeps getting deeper but so far there’s no consequences happening so it seems more like she’s digging up gold so she just keeps going. Honestly calling Gaius a coloniser isn’t the worst, with what the Garleans original game plan was its par for the course. I’m more side-eying the “Wuk is a precious ray of sunshine so she’d never ever say anything bad.”

    Is that a hint if we get more Wuk in the future it’s just gonna be more sunshine and rainbows and talk-no-jutsu? Guess we’re just gonna talk around the whole we killed your monarchs and installed a child king, or is that standard ruling under
    precious cinnamon roll princesses?

    Also since her usual voice is just un-accented Wuk Lamat her doing Gaius monologue “casually” doesn’t seem like it’d be different if she put on the Wuk voice? I didn’t listen to clip so grain of salt take. And also if it’s Gaius speech is bad why even do a casual take of it???
    Same reason they're doing everything else. Attention.
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