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  1. #611
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    Vhen'li Sahval
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    Apologies to the moderators that have to come back to work after their weekend off to this. I know you're not getting paid enough to deal with this lol.[/IMG]
    The sheer lack of self-awareness you have is absolutely astounding.
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    Howdy o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Nonsense View Post
    You should be more like Wuk Lamo and Speen and channel your friendship power to save the world
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  3. #613
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    Vera Nova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manamaru View Post
    At first I thought you were being a little obtuse until-






    That's some method acting, because that's a some catty antics. But I'm sure lashing out at her peers publicly isn't doing her any favors for finding gigs because that just sends a message to HR that she might be a headache to work with.
    Honestly, I'm not surprised and it's sad that I'm not surprised. People will defend that behavior tooth and nail though.
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  4. #614
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    Honestly, I'm not surprised and it's sad that I'm not surprised. People will defend that behavior tooth and nail though.
    I support Sena's position!

    Wuk Lamat is a cisgender woman, and should be played by such. Given Sena's previous statements on the matter, I see no reason to believe that they will have any concerns or issues about this, and will readily step down to allow a cisgender woman to play the role of Wuk Lamat going forward in FFXIV.
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  5. #615
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    I support Sena's position!

    Wuk Lamat is a cisgender woman, and should be played by such. Given Sena's previous statements on the matter, I see no reason to believe that they will have any concerns or issues about this, and will readily step down to allow a cisgender woman to play the role of Wuk Lamat going forward in FFXIV.
    I thought she was a Hrothgar, how do you tell if a Hrothgar is cis or not? How do we know if she's never used a Fantasia?
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  6. #616
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    I thought she was a Hrothgar, how do you tell if a Hrothgar is cis or not? How do we know if she's never used a Fantasia?
    What are you fishing for with this obvious bad faith argument? Genuinely curious.
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    Howdy o/

  7. #617
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    I thought she was a Hrothgar, how do you tell if a Hrothgar is cis or not? How do we know if she's never used a Fantasia?
    She was explicitly targeted as a child because she was a young, female hrothgar? She was referred to as a 'rare, female child' by her biological father and targeted as such, she's consistently referred to as 'she' through the story, her biological father is also a Hrothgar, nobody ever provides any indication she was ever anything different. I think on one or two occasions she even refers to herself as female.

    I genuinely have no idea what your position is here, because if your response to me making the clearly stupid argument, based on her own explicit statements, to prove how absolutely brain-dead a take it is... is to try and argue about the gender identity of a fictional cat I don't even know where to start with you. I hope you are trolling, and if not, may God have mercy on your soul.

    Like, this is one of those cases we have extensive and explicit data on her history; she was given up by her father, clearly young enough she doesn't remember him at all. She's said as much. So unless your argument is a bunch of grown adults in a rural village got a hold of an extremely rare potion and shoved it down a random child's throat...
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    Last edited by BigBoom550; 08-12-2024 at 11:43 AM. Reason: Addition

  8. #618
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    She was explicitly targeted as a child because she was a young, female hrothgar? She was referred to as a 'rare, female child' by her biological father and targeted as such, she's consistently referred to as 'she' through the story, her biological father is also a Hrothgar, nobody ever provides any indication she was ever anything different. I think on one or two occasions she even refers to herself as female.

    I genuinely have no idea what your position is here, because if your response to me making the clearly stupid argument, based on her own explicit statements, to prove how absolutely brain-dead a take it is... is to try and argue about the gender identity of a fictional cat I don't even know where to start with you. I hope you are trolling, and if not, may God have mercy on your soul.

    Like, this is one of those cases we have extensive and explicit data on her history; she was given up by her father, clearly young enough she doesn't remember him at all. She's said as much. So unless your argument is a bunch of grown adults in a rural village got a hold of an extremely rare potion and shoved it down a random child's throat...
    Quote Originally Posted by Vensaval View Post
    What are you fishing for with this obvious bad faith argument? Genuinely curious.


    holy moly, are you guys okay?
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  9. #619
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    Vhen'li Sahval
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    holy moly, are you guys okay?
    It's perfectly on brand with everything else you've been posting in this thread. If it was really a joke and we couldn't tell, then it oughta cause you to do some introspection.
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    Last edited by Vensaval; 08-12-2024 at 12:22 PM. Reason: cleanup
    Howdy o/

  10. #620
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    holy moly, are you guys okay?
    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    I get it, when all you got it's a hammer, everything starts looking an awful lot like nails, but that approach usually doesn't work for long.
    I see you haven't learned a thing.
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