With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[Swordsman]

100% this lmao.

You can clearly tell who needs to log off Twitter in these threads.

The people who live and breathe social media will always be a strange sort of phenomenon to me. I just can't wrap my head around how anyone can spend a majority of their day on Twitter, IG, tiktok, etc. I guess for some people it's tied to their career? Meanwhile I can hardly be bothered to keep a linkedin profile updated.

[LisseyCrowe]

The people who live and breathe social media will always be a strange sort of phenomenon to me. I just can't wrap my head around how anyone can spend a majority of their day on Twitter, IG, tiktok, etc. I guess for some people it's tied to their career? Meanwhile I can hardly be bothered to keep a linkedin profile updated.

In the case of Sena it probably is tied to her career. Connections, relevance and all that, even if we wish it was all skill-based. But then the question becomes if it is tied to your career, why be so inflammatory online? It just seems foolhardy to me.

[Nebelheim]

I think giving death threats are horrible and so is doxxing but Sena constantly playing victim and going on toxic rants about how cisgendered white woman should step down and be blacklisted from voice acting or playing certain roles and complaining how people find cisgendered woman cute or claiming she is being harassed and getting death threats with no proof while replying to a valid criticism of her performance things like that are just going to keep giving hateful people more ammunition to harass. I think she needs to take a break from social media and not keep posting the things that she has been posting because not only will she be putting herself at risk of not being hired in future projects but also at risk of being fired and people getting more nasty towards her.

[DiaDeem]

[LuciferMournstar]

I didn't even know who Wuk Lemats english VA was MtF trans until I saw I saw a video on Youtube about it. This was just before Dawntrail released and after Wuk Lemat was introduced in 6.55. Then I found another video a bit later still before DT came out, and posted a comment about Wuk Lemat's English VA. You can find that here, it's the highlighted reply : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kghL...U2yA2u_4W8JZf0

Then Dawntrail came out and after going through the story all I had to say was : "I think the English VA did fine. Not the best performance, but not bad overall. I say a 7/10. The only real issue I had with her performance was 2 things : The accent seemed too hard forced, but i'm not an expert on what you would call an authentic accent for that area. The other was her emotion. When she screamed and yelled, it sounded very... muted. This is probably because the voice actress is MtF trans. She probably had issues hitting that higher volume, while keeping a more feminine pitch and tone. Other than that, I didn't have a problem." (Sorry, I don't have a link to where I first posted that, the thread that was posted on got deleted.)

I still got called a bigot a couple times and hated on for even MENTIONING Sena was MtF trans. Even though what I said was more along the lines of saying "I understand why". Not blaming her, not shaming her, not hating on her for it. If anything, I gave a good reason as to why her performance fell a little flat. I was understanding and not in a "pity" way, just understanding that it was really hard for her or downright impossible. I didn't expect perfection, and I still maintain Sena did alright, minus a few points. It just goes to show, sometimes you can't even be fair sometimes. Show ANY criticism when it comes to some overzealous activist, LEGBTQ++, ect. You will always have those that are rabid, and either you're 100% for, or 100% against. There is no middle ground with a minority of very angry and vocal activist, LGBTQ++, ect. people.

[ForteNightshade]

You've changed the context.

You switched the idea from "I've been attacked" to "you attacked me" and are trying to conflate the two when they are actually drastically different things to say.

The former is a way of indicating distress and a desire for support. The latter is an accusation that someone else has wronged you.

You're arguing dishonestly and doing a poor job at it.

I did no such thing. You simply missed the point I was making—which is you need proof of your accusation. The context of what led to it is, honestly, irrelevant. Change what I said to "I've been attacked for x" and literally nothing I said changes.

I also find it a bit amusing you isolated only the former as "indicating distress and a desire for support" but not the latter... when that sentiment would apply to both. Likewise, saying you've received death threats and harassment is equally accusing people of wronging you. The only difference here is my example used a singular person instead of the many people.

In other words, the only one arguing in bad faith here is yourself for having missed the point to begin with.

[BigBoom550]

They're a troll, ignore them. They do this in any thread related to the topic.

[Xylira]

Sena seems like a crybully.

No, that doesn't excuse threats and harassment. But they do seem to be doing everything possible to try to bring it onto themselves with their behavior, while leaving enough plausible deniability to play the victim. If they truly wanted the harassment to stop, they would report any credible threats to law enforcement and otherwise ignore/block the other negativity. Openly crying about it just gives her harassers exactly what they want, a reaction. Then again I also strongly get the feeling that they're giving her exactly what she wants as well, attention and a means to appeal for sympathy.

[Nebelheim]

On one hand if she is getting death threats and doxxed I do feel bad but on the other hand going on unhinged toxic rants about cis woman and other topics and saying controversial things publicly that stuff tends to bring in toxic people who feed on that stuff and also further gives people a reason to dislike her even more than they already have and isn't really helping her situation any. Her post on twitter could give square enix means to fire her for poor representation of the company if they decide to go through it and make any future work hard to get if a company doesn't want to deal with any of that drama.