With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[Vensaval]

No one deserves this treatment, Protecc Wuk Lamat

The voice of the character is not the character. Character still sucks.

[Hesitate89]

I believe she's much better than you think, the story reasons behind her character, is much deeper and important has gone over many heads to acknowledge

[Willemdarke]

Bro do not take that track with me, I am *the* depraved bisexual and I will have that respected. Long as it can consent I might be down.

Reducing all concerns to 'wahh they just hage trans people' was covered a few pages back. It's not remotely constructive to say.

I entirely agree with you, as I'm LGBT too, but people like the guy you're quotting wouldn't know this thread is anything beyond trans bashing by just looking at it. On the surface one looks at it and it's like "aww poor Sena" - one has to have been along for the whole ride to have seen just how badly she treats the fandom.

[Vensaval]

I believe she's much better than you think, the story reasons behind her character, is much deeper and important has gone over many heads to acknowledge

I believe she's much worse than you think. The story and the characters contort themselves to make her look more powerful and morally good than anyone else.

Anyway, this thread isn't to talk about Wuk Lamat. There's at least 10 others out there to discuss that.

[Isala]

I believe she's much better than you think, the story reasons behind her character, is much deeper and important has gone over many heads to acknowledge

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Wuk Lamat. The story is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of peace and happiness most of the plot will go over a typical player's head. There's also Wuks's optimistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from children's literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of this plot, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Wuk Lamat truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the love in Wuk's existential catchphrase "Sphene! Listen to me!" which itself is a cryptic reference to Steve Metzger's "Yes I can Listen". I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kathryn Cwynar's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

[Hesitate89]

She's Seat of Deudelaphon that's why dude. Look up this character and it'll all make sense

[Antharaes]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Wuk Lamat. The story is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of peace and happiness most of the plot will go over a typical player's head. There's also Wuks's optimistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from children's literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of this plot, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Wuk Lamat truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the love in Wuk's existential catchphrase "Sphene! Listen to me!" which itself is a cryptic reference to Steve Metzger's "Yes I can Listen". I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kathryn Cwynar's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

[Sivante]

She's Seat of Deudelaphon that's why dude. Look up this character and it'll all make sense

It's a fun concept, but how can she be the seat of Deudelaphon? Deudelaphon was killed (improperly, we believe) after Wuk Lamat was born. There was no period to which Deudelaphon could have reincarnated as a sundered shard or otherwise into Wuk Lamat, she predates his fall. I'm not against your theory, I just want to understand how this can be with the facts we have on the table.

Apologies if you responded in the last reply I asked this, but I didn't see an answer.

[Midare]

She's Seat of Deudelaphon that's why dude. Look up this character and it'll all make sense

She never appraised any architecture nor invented anything at all. And unless you think that telling the hanu hanu the equivalent of "have you tried just being happy, lmao?" counts as innovation... then I don't know what to tell ya.

[Sivante]

Nix, saw your reply in the other thread. Not gonna engage with that further here.