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    Burmecia's Avatar
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    Is it a class 1 or 2 permit?
    Excellent question! Being straight and white passing would diminish her score to weaker class. We might need to review her case again.

    /non-serious
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    Is it a class 1 or 2 permit? I'm not sure where (presumably) straight female jewish woman ranks on the Complainer Stack.

    I miss the old system of everyone screaming into the void together. Had a sense of community.
    You'd presume incorrectly but I don't feel a need to argue with you about it. At the end of the day, at least for me, how anyone here views me is irrelevant lol. I wish more people in this thread followed that mentality too tbh.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 08-12-2024 at 11:21 PM.

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    Lizvette Nyar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    You'd presume incorrectly but I don't feel a need to argue with you about it. At the end of the day, at least for me, how anyone here views me is irrelevant lol. I wish more people in this thread followed that mentality too tbh.
    most people do, it's just the screaming sanctimonious ones that are reeeeeeee-ing about anything that even slightly deviates from their position
    dw about it, do your thing~
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    I'm French.

    Since it's basically both our national sport and our raison d'être, I will comply as much as I want about everything.
    And I don't even require a permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I am over 20 + not married. I get called all 3 depending on who I'm talking to and what information they have available/what they visually see. Doctors call me Ms., the guy I pick up pizza from calls me Mrs. ("Have a good day Mrs.") and the guy at the gas station that likes to hit on anyone with a pulse calls me Miss.

    Am I supposed to go rage at all of them and demand to be addressed a certain way? No. That's literally dumb. I'll just get my things and move on with my day.
    Read what I wrote again. At the end of the day, it is up to you to decide how someone addresses you. If you're fine with it then that's ok also. But it's not up to me to adress you on a first name basis if you've asked me to call you by your last.
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    Y'noh Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest View Post
    Read what I wrote again. At the end of the day, it is up to you to decide how someone addresses you. If you're fine with it then that's ok also. But it's not up to me to adress you on a first name basis if you've asked me to call you by your last.
    I know this is gonna be outside of your realm of understanding, as your ability to understand is extremely limited based on what I've seen of your posts, but it is not up to you how people address you. You can only request that they address you a specific way, but at the end of the day they don't have to honor that request. And if your Sena, who is extremely unlikeable and goes out of his way to antagonize people, they are actually more likely to not go along with your request.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest View Post
    Read what I wrote again. At the end of the day, it is up to you to decide how someone addresses you. If you're fine with it then that's ok also. But it's not up to me to adress you on a first name basis if you've asked me to call you by your last.
    Yes, it is. Everyone is capable of independent thought and will make their own choice on what to do, we're not all part of a hive mind.

    For me personally, if it's someone that brings the conversation up in a respectful manner and is someone I know personally, I will do my best to respect what they wish to be called because I have that personal attachment to them and do care what they think/feel. Otherwise, it's entirely up to the attitude and way it's brought up when it comes to people I don't know. If the person is respectful about it and doesn't eat my head off if I accidentally misgender them (because I'm a human being who makes mistakes), then we're cool. If the person decides to throw a public tantrum and call me a transphobe, then we will have an issue.

    Respect is given when it's earned in my book. I'm not going to go out of my way to do what someone wants if they only want it for validation purposes and subsequently turn into a toddler when it doesn't go the way they hope.
    I'm also not going to respect any member of the transgender community that tries to paint cis-women or cis-men as less worthy of things because they aren't getting the attention they'd like (which is a whole other conversation of why I question the motives of some people in the transgender community and what they think being a woman actually is).

    So no, it is up to you and it is up to me and it is up to anyone else. If you take away the ability for someone to make a choice, all you're doing is forcing them which isn't actually getting the respect you want, ye?
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    Vhen'li Sahval
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest View Post
    Read what I wrote again. At the end of the day, it is up to you to decide how someone addresses you. If you're fine with it then that's ok also. But it's not up to me to adress you on a first name basis if you've asked me to call you by your last.
    That's... not how social interaction works. How a person addresses another is always dependent on the person doing the addressing. The other can request to be addressed another way, but the person addressing them will always choose for themselves how to address them. Rudely, politely, sarcastically... Decided by the addressee at every interval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest View Post
    It is up to you to decide what you want to be called and it is up to me to respect that if we are to have a civil discussion with each other. I can't believe I need to explain this. So yes I can adress you how I want but then you have the right to ignore me and call me what ever you want and the conversation goes no where lol.
    Wait. So you do understand this?
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    Last edited by Vensaval; 08-13-2024 at 12:41 AM. Reason: updated flip-flop
    Howdy o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    And? Opinions can be bigoted, and I don't like some random person here giving free license for it to be okay to be racist or transphobic, you know, as long as you hide it behind humor like a coward.
    Humor is man's way of coping with pain. Should a person with dwarfism be forbidden from wearing a green shirt, going to the grocery store, and buying Lucky Charms?

    That was a dwarf comedian's joke, before someone gets offended.

    I'm a suicide survivor. I'm the first person to laugh at those jokes, and I wasn't offended by Quintus deciding to stop pop and drop in the last expansion.

    Assuming every joke comes from a place of malice is a quick way to find yourself in a humourless, colorless, and rather boring world.
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    Ulala Ula
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post

    I'm a suicide survivor. I'm the first person to laugh at those jokes, and I wasn't offended by Quintus deciding to stop pop and drop in the last expansion.
    Ik im not in the position to judge that, but ive always felt they treated it with all the dignity they could. What he lived for, what he believed in, everything was gone of falling apart.. and he knew he'll take their old ways with em, thats why he dismissed them all first.

    They couldve went like with Varo portraying an maniac who just went insane, but they choose that path.


    I really wished we'd gotten more of this - imo its the polar opposite of what Zoral Ja did in the end...
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