Monk Rant

[BabyYoda]

Why should all Strikers have to have the same gameplay any more than all Tanks or Healers should have to?

If anything, the tanks and healers should each be as distinct from each other as Monk and Samurai, Black Mage and Red Mage, etc. are from each other.

I see no issue with one Striker having a 87% GCD length, the other 80%, one having bankable oGCDs and the other oGCDs that need to be rushed out the very GCD they're generated, one having an extra GCD attached only to their freeform-weaponskills-CD and the other getting that value only indirectly, and so forth.

Sharing specific mechanics doesn't mean that the job is homogenized..
If you believe that you could say that Ninja is range job because it has range skills

Or calling samurai as a caster because it has casting.

It is not like that my friend.. the fact that monk and Samurai both has casting on their main dps skills doesn't mean that they are homogenized.

Tanks and healers share 75% to 90% of the kit this is homogenized but sharing 20% of kit for specific role isn't

[jonimated]

If you believe that you could say that Ninja is range job because it has range skills

Not for nothing, the community has been jokingly/not jokingly calling Ninja a ranged class for nearly a decade now.

[Shurrikhan]

Sharing specific mechanics doesn't mean that the job is homogenized.

It does in this case, however, mean that you're deprioritizing job identity specifically to enforce a sub-role identity.

If Iaijutsu were to fit Monk to the point it feels more like a Monk to have them than to not, I'd be happy to have them. If not, I don't. It's as simple as that.

Forcing every Striking job to have casts just because they're striking jobs is to ignore what vibes they already have in common holistically... in favor of a single characteristic that was purposely open to distinction / seemingly meant to be specific to a single job. It'd be like to say all real life monks are monks only because they're missing the hair on the top of their scalp and must therefore all do so, all while ignoring whatever asceticism they have in common.

[Tunda]

It does in this case, however, mean that you're deprioritizing job identity specifically to enforce a sub-role identity.

If Iaijutsu were to fit Monk to the point it feels more like a Monk to have them than to not, I'd be happy to have them. If not, I don't. It's as simple as that.

Forcing every Striking job to have casts just because they're striking jobs is to ignore what vibes they already have in common holistically... in favor of a single characteristic that was purposely open to distinction / seemingly meant to be specific to a single job. It'd be like to say all real life monks are monks only because they're missing the hair on the top of their scalp and must therefore all do so, all while ignoring whatever asceticism they have in common.

I don't see any new striker will come for next 2 expansions.. as I see it is already bloated with what currently have.

Forcing some identity to specific role is already existing without homonization look at scouting.
Where is Homonization with this sub-role? VPR do not play like NIN in any shape or form.
What they share? fast-based melee combat with range attack.

What MNK could share with SMR is how they can have mix of 2 kits (SAM/NIN) as it is faster than samurai and slower than ninja
sharing ninjitsu kit as a martial art job and sharing the cast of SAM having more impact on the skills using Chi technique.

as I see there will be no similarity between MNK and SAM if they share 1 aspect of the role

NIN and VPR share 2 and they are unique

[Shurrikhan]

NIN and VPR have no more in common than MNK and SAM do. And that's fine. Again, you're missing the point: I see no point in copying a mechanic from Samurai to Monk or vice versa on the sole basis that they are both Striking jobs.

Apply the mechanic to Monk because Monk would be more fun with it... or do not apply it at all.