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Thread: Monk Rant

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    Monk Rant

    as someone who had monk as my second job. monk feels so bad. the freedom from having not only different rotations but also the positionals made it feel so unique. but now ... now you just sit at the side and eat the 1 other positional that it now has. it feels so brain dead. you no longer have to worry about a dot or positionals. just sit there hit the rotation that is forced on you and move for a mech that is incoming. rinse repeat until the fight is over. having to plan your rotation and knowing when you can do a side rotation or a rear rotation or having to do a hybrid made the job fun imo. now its just do the rotation and do the perfect balance and call it a day. everything that made the job fun and unique is now just hit the highlights and call it a day.
    there was a high skill ceiling in which great monks could show off how great the job could be while the average person may not care about it or just level it and call it an xpac. sure it was a hard job to learn but it was even harder to master and that was also part of the charm of it. those that took the time to learn and mastered it were rewarded with great damage.
    why can't i use one of the other skills in the rotation? why does it have to be just that ONE rotation then move to another? why can't i have freedom to choose what rotation would work in that situation? but most importantly why does monk feel so bad?
    i personally would play every other job before monk this xpac. just a job that is going to get to max level and never touched again until the next xpac to get to max level again. it was a job that i looked forward to level and hop on to change things up, but now it will just gather dust and try to forget about it.
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    "We want our game to be accessible as possible, so we've expertly tuned every job to be so utterly one-note that you now have to actually have some kind of physical ailment to not be able to purple parse within 1 minute of booting up FFXIV for the first time. This will do wonders for player retention and make it so I don't have to do my job--I MEAN make it so players aren't confused by their jobs. Yeah.

    ...Anyways, where's my paycheck?"


    -John Fantasy, Modern Job Designer for FFXIV
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    When I first saw the beast chakra balls at the very start of dawntrail and that they could stack to 2 or 3 I thought maybe they finally found a way to bring back the free flowing monk combos from before you just alternated them religiously. But that didn't last very long. What was it, 1 week before going back to endwalker monk?

    I used to think monk was the black mage of melee. That was a long time ago.
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    What's annoying is that they killed monk, almost no one cared.

    They did the exact same changes to Viper and there were 1000 threads.

    People really do pick a job exclusively based on aesthetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    What's annoying is that they killed monk, almost no one cared.

    They did the exact same changes to Viper and there were 1000 threads.

    People really do pick a job exclusively based on aesthetics.
    I understand what you're getting at, but I think this is an oversimplification. On one end you have a brand new job that a lot of people were excited to play, and on the other end you have an old job that arguably hasn't clicked with players since Stormblood. Yeah Viper is going to have more voices because it naturally has more players right now, probably by a very wide margin.

    That doesn't diminish the problems Monk is experiencing, it's just the reality of the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    What's annoying is that they killed monk, almost no one cared.

    They did the exact same changes to Viper and there were 1000 threads.

    People really do pick a job exclusively based on aesthetics.
    Monk has never been a popular job, so it's not going to get much attention.
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    Not a rant but a question.

    Since when did they merge PB and its following finishers into a single button?

    I had them separated for the longest time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuine_stranger View Post
    Since when did they merge PB and its following finishers into a single button?

    I had them separated for the longest time...
    Since never?
    PB is still an independent ability and its respective finishers are only tied to the Masterful Blitz Action.

    The only things monk is allowed to merge/unmerge is the Riddles of Fire/Earth + Followups and the Meditation + Chakra Spenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunhwapark View Post
    Since never?
    PB is still an independent ability and its respective finishers are only tied to the Masterful Blitz Action.

    The only things monk is allowed to merge/unmerge is the Riddles of Fire/Earth + Followups and the Meditation + Chakra Spenders.
    I feel so dumb right now. lol

    Guess it's time to fight my muscle memory.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    [I]"We want our game to be accessible as possible, so we've expertly tuned every job to be so utterly one-note that you now have to actually have some kind of physical ailment to not be able to purple parse within 1 minute of booting up FFXIV for the first time.
    Wouldn't this just increase the relative loss faced by having actual/unavoidable issues of access (i.e., real disabilities)?

    Sidenote: Would the only way we could combat the removal of all non-mechanical (as in, actual button-pressing / appendage movement) skill expression be to point out its being more discriminatory, rather than less? >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    What's annoying is that they killed monk, almost no one cared.

    They did the exact same changes to Viper and there were 1000 threads.

    People really do pick a job exclusively based on aesthetics.
    There's also the difference between axing the cute new pony and beating the long-dead horse, tbf. Monk's been spiraling since late Stormblood. Endwalker was just a lucky fluke.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 08-15-2024 at 06:58 AM.

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