Data Center Travel Problems

[AngelicDeath]

I just been waiting for it to open I wanna actually see my friends again and no play alone all the time

[Bladesinger]

Reminder to Players.
It's a Privilege we are gladly using, when we travel.
(Since Server Meshing doesn't exist as a MMO Standard. Let alone adapted for a Decade Running MMO, based off of a "1.0")

We Aren't Entitled To Play with Specific Players who exist in other DCs. We aren't Entitled to Interact with Communities in other DCs.

The DC/Worlds/Homeworlds you exist in, is YOUR LOCATION AND COMMUNITY.

If you cannot exist and take/give benefit of it.

Why should you exist in it, and then leave.

The Devs had a plan, any other Unintended benefit you take, isn't Entitled or given to you.

You Took them.

Don't get yourself confused.

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You can be Unhappy, but you cannot demand to have a situation that wasn't intended. Or even Labeled as a Standard Feature.

All that you can do, is hope they resolve things.

Or actually settle in and build/improve your own community.

Which is in your Homeworld, which is able to interact with its sister worlds. Within Your DC.

You Chose your Location, Live In It.

We All Knew The Expectations, and this was obvious in its approach.

The problem with this is currently my situation: FC established in 2013 on Siren - Never needed help from folks outside the Server/Data Center - Married in RL with Wife joining us 2 years ago on Siren and a fluke finds her TRAPPED on Dynamis with no reprieve to return for 90 days or maybe never - One of the top crafters in our FC has just been told she might never be able to return and disenfranchising several members makes this current decision absolute horses**t chief. Before you lump everyone together, consider there are other situations that're not even closely related to the reason why people are piling into Aether... We have no intention of leaving Siren because years of hard work have given us a very good home - She transferred over under my guidance that we might be able to expand upon and open doors to members of the Guild that we've been involved with for nearly 18 years to only find out at the last minute that we could NOT take the FC - The House - and absolutely no ability to transfer the benefits of an already established FC on Siren - Hence why she and another officer are currently stuck on Dynamis.. They need to offer a way to return to your home server if the situation isn't to their liking, we are after all: The Paying Customer...

[CidHeiral]

Give me a break. Literally everyone I know is angry at this change.

Your echo chamber bubble of DC dogpilers are upset about the change. Wow, shocking.

[Gember]

If they are going to change anything, they should go back to what they did at the start of Dawntrail: Only open the doors to Dynamis and OCE so those datacenters can be populated and helped until they figure out how to make a better system. Keep the other DCs locked to travel to, but everyone can travel out to Dynamis or OCE if they like.

[KazukoHimura]

I pray they fix this with the hotfixes...

[e4aaron]

If they told you it was coming after DT release but before savage, all of the same consequences would still happen.
1) All you would have is just a head start on finding a new static on your data center, but you couldn't home world transfer anywhere besides Dynamis because it was locked and
2) You don't know how bad the restriction is going to be for where you need to be specifically and what times you and your people interact. To pre-breakup the static or any community based off a possibility of inconvenience is also going to be 50/50.
3) Square probably doesn't even want that 50/50. They likely wanted you to at least attempt to play content with people from other data centers on Dynamis or OCE. That is what the Twitter account was spamming every day during the initial DT lockdown. They aren't incentivized on their end to tell you ahead of time.

I mean it’s reasonable they’d want to avoid people piling onto the server, but from what I understand world transfers were locked down anyways due to congestion, and ultimately we’re now facing the same issue of people flocking to one server and staying logged in to avoid travel times. The end result is still the same as if they had told us early or not, with the one difference being that people would have had the information to work with on what changes to expect.

If they are going to change anything, they should go back to what they did at the start of Dawntrail: Only open the doors to Dynamis and OCE so those datacenters can be populated and helped until they figure out how to make a better system. Keep the other DCs locked to travel to, but everyone can travel out to Dynamis or OCE if they like.

This is what I honestly expected going into savage, but it is what it is now. But chances are if they had locked it to just Dynamis we may have run into congestion on Dynamis as well. Or maybe not, no real way to know.

Maybe the community should start spreading out. And stop acting like a 5k lbs fat guy stuck in bed who does nothing but make excuses as too why he cant lose weight. The restrictions were put in place cause the communtiy refuses to spread out and just piles on aether like flies on dog crap. If there was raid,rp and pvp communties on every dc like on ather and crystal we would not be seeing these restrictions

Hey, take a chill pill. It’s easy to whine about community this and community that, but thing is that people each have their own things going on. The raiding on Primal isn’t any different than the raiding on Aether, and people will adjust over time. But for now, it sucks to have to deal with what feels like a poor and sudden implementation. People aren’t all upset just to be upset. Just some of them. (:

[VoidsentStatus]

But chances are if they had locked it to just Dynamis we may have run into congestion on Dynamis as well. Or maybe not, no real way to know.

And that was one thing they mentioned they didn't want. Even Dynamis now has a lower cap on travelers/visitors than it did when Dawntrail first launched because noone ever complained about not able to go to Dynamis back then and congestion then would've been worse than it is now because of MSQ rush and job leveling. I'm assuming they want Dynamis open, but not fully open.

Though I was talking to a friend on Malboro 2 days ago about Party Finder and their thoughts on things since they were running Savage before me and one thing we pretty much agreed on is that while this didn't have a definitive end date in terms of dc travel, it is something we thought would be temporary and not a permanent feature. Because 6 years from now, we'll have to add another data center potentially and start over again, but more importantly, even in the interviews, Yoshi P never stated that cross DC DF/PF was something that was being abandoned or is never going to happen or something they don't want. He only stated that it was near impossible and would take 3 years minimum of full resources which is too long to wait for a solution and a bad business decision. That isn't to say that if technology that would make it easier to create existed in future years that they wouldn't use it, that also isn't to say that it's not something they slowly work on in the background instead of committing hella resources to it (something that might take 6 years instead of 3 years). They could just do this as the immediate fix, work on things in the background for the next 3 years, and we get an update in 3-4.5 years from now on whether it looks more possible and or when it might release. Wouldn't be the first time the community asked for something as a solution to a problem or a highly desired feature that we had to wait 6+ years for.

[Rahye]

My big point wasn't to cause problems but to open it up for people to express concerns regarding the DC travel system. why I do think this was a solution, I believe there could of been a better one. I am not sure what that is but limiting people from interacting with other data centers like this isn't it.

[NanaWiloh]

My big point wasn't to cause problems but to open it up for people to express concerns regarding the DC travel system. why I do think this was a solution, I believe there could of been a better one. I am not sure what that is but limiting people from interacting with other data centers like this isn't it.

This is the solution the other is the community spreading out and not dog piling. But the community refuses to spread out.

[TaleraRistain]

I pray they fix this with the hotfixes...

Same. My Aether static had to replace a member at nearly the last second and our 8th member is from Dynamis. They have to come over to an Aether server the night before and then they've logged in during the day since they work from home and kept themselves logged in so they can be sure to make raid night. Our second night together last week they were on Aether but couldn't get logged into that server.

We could try to look into going to Dynamis but I've heard there are issues that way too and some of my friends have gotten stuck in limbo trying to go there. I believe it's because Seraph is getting congested. Plus most of us may not have time to deal with that between end of work and start of raid time.

And my friends in statics with players across various DCs are also having issues. SE is discouraging statics from being cross-DC with the current state of things.