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  1. #11
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    GTK0HLK's Avatar
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    Selene Halflight
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Reminder to Players.
    It's a Privilege we are gladly using, when we travel.
    (Since Server Meshing doesn't exist as a MMO Standard. Let alone adapted for a Decade Running MMO, based off of a "1.0")

    We Aren't Entitled To Play with Specific Players who exist in other DCs. We aren't Entitled to Interact with Communities in other DCs.

    The DC/Worlds/Homeworlds you exist in, is YOUR LOCATION AND COMMUNITY.

    If you cannot exist and take/give benefit of it.

    Why should you exist in it, and then leave.

    The Devs had a plan, any other Unintended benefit you take, isn't Entitled or given to you.

    You Took them.

    Don't get yourself confused.

    __________________________________________

    You can be Unhappy, but you cannot demand to have a situation that wasn't intended. Or even Labeled as a Standard Feature.

    All that you can do, is hope they resolve things.

    Or actually settle in and build/improve your own community.

    Which is in your Homeworld, which is able to interact with its sister worlds. Within Your DC.

    You Chose your Location, Live In It.

    We All Knew The Expectations, and this was obvious in its approach.
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  2. #12
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    Reminder to Players.
    It's a Privilege we are gladly using, when we travel.
    (Since Server Meshing doesn't exist as a MMO Standard. Let alone adapted for a Decade Running MMO, based off of a "1.0")

    We Aren't Entitled To Play with Specific Players who exist in other DCs. We aren't Entitled to Interact with Communities in other DCs.

    The DC/Worlds/Homeworlds you exist in, is YOUR LOCATION AND COMMUNITY.

    If you cannot exist and take/give benefit of it.

    Why should you exist in it, and then leave.

    The Devs had a plan, any other Unintended benefit you take, isn't Entitled or given to you.

    You Took them.

    Don't get yourself confused.

    __________________________________________

    You can be Unhappy, but you cannot demand to have a situation that wasn't intended. Or even Labeled as a Standard Feature.

    All that you can do, is hope they resolve things.

    Or actually settle in and build/improve your own community.

    Which is in your Homeworld, which is able to interact with its sister worlds. Within Your DC.

    You Chose your Location, Live In It.

    We All Knew The Expectations, and this was obvious in its approach.
    Been trying to hammer this home on a few other threads but nope...skulls are too thick.
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  3. #13
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    Medulla Vespertine
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    Reminder to Players.
    It's a Privilege we are gladly using, when we travel.
    (Since Server Meshing doesn't exist as a MMO Standard. Let alone adapted for a Decade Running MMO, based off of a "1.0")

    We Aren't Entitled To Play with Specific Players who exist in other DCs. We aren't Entitled to Interact with Communities in other DCs.

    The DC/Worlds/Homeworlds you exist in, is YOUR LOCATION AND COMMUNITY.

    If you cannot exist and take/give benefit of it.

    Why should you exist in it, and then leave.

    The Devs had a plan, any other Unintended benefit you take, isn't Entitled or given to you.

    You Took them.

    Don't get yourself confused.

    __________________________________________

    You can be Unhappy, but you cannot demand to have a situation that wasn't intended. Or even Labeled as a Standard Feature.

    All that you can do, is hope they resolve things.

    Or actually settle in and build/improve your own community.

    Which is in your Homeworld, which is able to interact with its sister worlds. Within Your DC.

    You Chose your Location, Live In It.

    We All Knew The Expectations, and this was obvious in its approach.



    (4)

  4. #14
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    kajv95's Avatar
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    Lilia Atlantia
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 40
    "Server meshing isn't a standard"

    When I play WoW and want to play with off-realm friends in that game, you know what I do? I just invite them and they magically show up. FFXIV's implementation is a little clunkier, but it's very much there and it's great too.

    Their auction house is meshed together for crafter materials.

    For what it's worth, I don't agree with piling onto another DCs PF and that the intended use case was for friends to be able to play together and such. However, now that isn't possible either, and to say it was a "privilege" is misunderstanding the fact that it was announced as a new feature of the game. So now it was part of the game, that they were selling. It was advertised. It allowed people to not have to wait to make their characters in order to be able to play with friends (because "wait til 3AM lol" is more effort than most people who dwell on these forums are willing to put in. Let's face it, we're a little more into this game than randy mcnewcharacter :/ )

    Seems to me this is a pretty basic feature the top MMOs seem to have.
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  5. #15
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    Payne Leonhart
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    Reminder to Players.
    It's a Privilege we are gladly using, when we travel.
    (Since Server Meshing doesn't exist as a MMO Standard. Let alone adapted for a Decade Running MMO, based off of a "1.0")

    We Aren't Entitled To Play with Specific Players who exist in other DCs. We aren't Entitled to Interact with Communities in other DCs.

    The DC/Worlds/Homeworlds you exist in, is YOUR LOCATION AND COMMUNITY.

    If you cannot exist and take/give benefit of it.

    Why should you exist in it, and then leave.

    The Devs had a plan, any other Unintended benefit you take, isn't Entitled or given to you.

    You Took them.

    Don't get yourself confused.

    __________________________________________

    You can be Unhappy, but you cannot demand to have a situation that wasn't intended. Or even Labeled as a Standard Feature.

    All that you can do, is hope they resolve things.

    Or actually settle in and build/improve your own community.

    Which is in your Homeworld, which is able to interact with its sister worlds. Within Your DC.

    You Chose your Location, Live In It.

    We All Knew The Expectations, and this was obvious in its approach.
    A large number of people had to make their characters where they didn't want to, with the promise of world visit, data center travel, and home world transfers which were abruptly taken away without warning. I'm stuck on Dynamis but my home is Jenova. So, no. I didn't choose my location, I was forced here or simply don't play at all. Seems like an obvious choice to me.
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  6. #16
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    e4aaron's Avatar
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    Bug Catcher
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    Reminder to Players.
    It's a Privilege we are gladly using, when we travel.
    (Since Server Meshing doesn't exist as a MMO Standard. Let alone adapted for a Decade Running MMO, based off of a "1.0")

    We Aren't Entitled To Play with Specific Players who exist in other DCs. We aren't Entitled to Interact with Communities in other DCs.

    The DC/Worlds/Homeworlds you exist in, is YOUR LOCATION AND COMMUNITY.

    If you cannot exist and take/give benefit of it.

    Why should you exist in it, and then leave.

    The Devs had a plan, any other Unintended benefit you take, isn't Entitled or given to you.

    You Took them.

    Don't get yourself confused.

    __________________________________________

    You can be Unhappy, but you cannot demand to have a situation that wasn't intended. Or even Labeled as a Standard Feature.

    All that you can do, is hope they resolve things.

    Or actually settle in and build/improve your own community.

    Which is in your Homeworld, which is able to interact with its sister worlds. Within Your DC.

    You Chose your Location, Live In It.

    We All Knew The Expectations, and this was obvious in its approach.
    This would be reasonable if we hadn’t been living with DC travel for a couple of years now. The way people play the game has changed drastically because they are expecting the feature to continue to be functional. And when a feature doesn’t work, people are within their right to complain about it, especially since the game is a paid service.

    Predictably, when DC travel came around I expanded my community of friends to be across DCs because it was made available to me for multiple years. I’m now facing the issue as the lone member of my static from a different DC of having to worry if I’m going to inconvenience others because of how DC travel is now. The sudden swap of the DC tra el system to what it is now one the first week of savage raids was a pretty big fumble.
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  7. #17
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by e4aaron View Post
    This would be reasonable if we hadn’t been living with DC travel for a couple of years now. The way people play the game has changed drastically because they are expecting the feature to continue to be functional. And when a feature doesn’t work, people are within their right to complain about it, especially since the game is a paid service.

    Predictably, when DC travel came around I expanded my community of friends to be across DCs because it was made available to me for multiple years. I’m now facing the issue as the lone member of my static from a different DC of having to worry if I’m going to inconvenience others because of how DC travel is now. The sudden swap of the DC tra el system to what it is now one the first week of savage raids was a pretty big fumble.
    Maybe the community should start spreading out. And stop acting like a 5k lbs fat guy stuck in bed who does nothing but make excuses as too why he cant lose weight. The restrictions were put in place cause the communtiy refuses to spread out and just piles on aether like flies on dog crap. If there was raid,rp and pvp communties on every dc like on ather and crystal we would not be seeing these restrictions
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 08-06-2024 at 10:07 AM.

  8. #18
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    Yui Fins
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    Adamantoise
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    I hate to break it to you but you are in the small number of people. The entire rest of the game's population that were playing on dead DCs are the majority. That is why this change happened, both scenarios are damaging but one is less damaging to the game overall than the other. Before this change Primal was totally dead, now there are regularly 60-100+ high end duties on PF. Seems like we'll be just fine without you, chief.
    Give me a break. Literally everyone I know is angry at this change. As someone on Dynamis I was far more content having the ability to travel to a server that isn't dead, and play with friends there then having to sit in an overall worse experience.
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  9. #19
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    Voidsent Veneer
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by e4aaron View Post
    The sudden swap of the DC tra el system to what it is now one the first week of savage raids was a pretty big fumble.
    So, this was something I understood from both sides. While some people would've wanted a heads up that travel was going to be the way it was for sake of forming a new static, at the same time, I don't know what the proper answer is for Square Enix.

    If they gave a heads up before DT, people would've flooded Aether and made congestion worse than it already was before they locked down all the worlds. Congestion status's only change on maintenance/patches so they wouldn't see an influx of home world transfer one day and then take down all the worlds /only/ to change congestion status to stop it.

    If they told you it was coming after DT release but before savage, all of the same consequences would still happen.
    1) All you would have is just a head start on finding a new static on your data center, but you couldn't home world transfer anywhere besides Dynamis because it was locked and
    2) You don't know how bad the restriction is going to be for where you need to be specifically and what times you and your people interact. To pre-breakup the static or any community based off a possibility of inconvenience is also going to be 50/50.
    3) Square probably doesn't even want that 50/50. They likely wanted you to at least attempt to play content with people from other data centers on Dynamis or OCE. That is what the Twitter account was spamming every day during the initial DT lockdown. They aren't incentivized on their end to tell you ahead of time.
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  10. #20
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    Voidsent Veneer
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinsFan View Post
    having the ability to travel to a server that isn't dead.
    You mean travelling to a Data Center with content levels that should've never existed to begin with.
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