Data Center Travel Problems

[Rahye]

I think there needs to be an issue that is addressed. SE has put in place restrictions on Data Center Travel and its causing problems with people who want to play with others on other data centers. I understand its to help spread out the players from flooding certain data centers (like aether for raiding). I hope SE reads this and seriously considers removing this restriction. I tried to go to Mateus to visit friends in an old FC and check out thier FC house but couldn't connect to the data center due to congestion.

[arstoka]

It's honestly such a huge issue. It's killed any interest I had in doing EXs and raiding savage this tier because I can't raid with my old raid group (they're on Aether and I'm on Crystal).

[Bladesinger]

It gets worse - Just got off the phone with Customer Support regarding my RL wife transferring to Dynamis under the idea that the FC house we have would be relocatable along with a Rank 29 FC with all the buffs and being held hostage AND taking our money to boot saying she might very well be unable to make a new character or transfer back to Siren because of their "congestion" which as I was logging onto Siren was at 8 people in front of me and major capital cities inundated with wanderers and travelers..


I'm calling bull and have no intention of "wiping the slate clean" and walking away from an FC that's been active since 2013...


You need to do better SE...

[Rahye]

Its a sad state the game is in and SE added this in Dawntrail when cross data center travel has been a thing for quite some time. Why have a feature in a game that you can't use. Tell everyone about this post and hope it can gain enough traction to cause beneficial change to the game.

[CidHeiral]

I hope SE reads this and seriously considers removing this restriction.

Then we'd be right back to every DC but one in each region being dead, which is worse. If the community could control themselves and not pile on one DC these restrictions wouldn't be necessary, but clearly they can't, so here we are.

[VoidsentStatus]

their "congestion" which as I was logging onto Siren was at 8 people in front of me and major capital cities inundated with wanderers and travelers..

I understand its to help spread out the players from flooding certain data centers (like aether for raiding). I hope SE reads this and seriously considers removing this restriction. I tried to go to Mateus to visit friends in an old FC and check out thier FC house but couldn't connect to the data center due to congestion.

Few things I'ma try to summarize:
1) Login congestion is different than server congestion. How many players are logging in is different than how many players are already logged in or how many characters are already created on that world and semi-active.

2) Feedback that is "I don't like this feature doing what it was intended to do" is not helpful to developers. You not visiting/interacting with people on other Data Centers unrestricted is the intended goal. That is the equivalent of someone punching you, and you tell them that it hurts and they need to not do that. That was the goal. That is why they punched you to begin with. Hell, that motivates them to do it again. There's no obliviousness that punching leads to hurting you, there's no obliviousness that shutting down travel leads to social and raiding restrictions. These are not unintended consequences.

3) What you should be saying is "This is the goal you had, this method of achieving it has these negative side effects, here's this other idea that achieves the same end goal without those negative side effects." However, half the forums seem to have not kept up with lodestone messages and interviews regarding this subject.

- Cross-DC Duty Finder is not a realistic option. They already said this is 3 years of full force development time if it's even possible. They do not want to take this route because it is not a good business decision. Those resources could be spent on other things and should it fail or have unintended negative consequences, could become years of wasted development time. And they/we do not want 5-6 years of messed up population discrepencies, a solution needed to be soon.

- Incentives to play on other Data Centers are not a realistic option. They do not want to shift where the majority of players are playing to one location. Trying to find incentives that drastically create population differences that you can't strip away from people later, that don't break the game, and can be applied to multiple data centers is a headache if not impossible as opposed to just forcing people where you need them to be.

They already stated they've already discussed these internally and pitched around ideas and none of them they liked. So unless people find an alternative that the devs couldn't, that is viable for them as a business, we are not getting reversal changes.

[1313]

Then we'd be right back to every DC but one in each region being dead, which is worse. If the community could control themselves and not pile on one DC these restrictions wouldn't be necessary, but clearly they can't, so here we are.

so all other communities should be torn apart and friendships/relationships dissolve so that a small number of people can be happy...well guess what, when we're all gone because of this shit, you'll have nobody to raid with on any data center, consider that.

[VoidsentStatus]

so that a small number of people can be happy

75% of the NA Region is a small number of people. If that isn't bait, holy

[1313]

75% of the NA Region is a small number of people. If that isn't bait, holy

if you think 75% of na is happy with the current state of things you're dead wrong

[CidHeiral]

so all other communities should be torn apart and friendships/relationships dissolve so that a small number of people can be happy...well guess what, when we're all gone because of this shit, you'll have nobody to raid with on any data center, consider that.

I hate to break it to you but you are in the small number of people. The entire rest of the game's population that were playing on dead DCs are the majority. That is why this change happened, both scenarios are damaging but one is less damaging to the game overall than the other. Before this change Primal was totally dead, now there are regularly 60-100+ high end duties on PF. Seems like we'll be just fine without you, chief.