If Dark Knight was good..

[Ramiee]

I want Dark Knight to not be trash, TBN is the most problematic ability in the entire job.

Yep youre right, remove TBN and put a shield on Oblation and give it at level 70. Tanks clearly can't have anything unique anymore or any rewards for good mitigation, just do your 1-2-3 combo and spender forever.

[Arohk]

Yep youre right, remove TBN and put a shield on Oblation and give it at level 70. Tanks clearly can't have anything unique anymore or any rewards for good mitigation, just do your 1-2-3 combo and spender forever.

TBN is not mitigation, it is a shield.
You can see that every time you have a Dark knight as a Tank in a dungeon, that he takes a lot more damage than any other Tank.

YOu can use 2-3 TBN per trash pull, which equals to 75% health , compare that to Bloodwhetting which not only gives you 10% mitigation and heals you for ~300% health on each use.

[Zairava]

TBN is not mitigation, it is a shield.
You can see that every time you have a Dark knight as a Tank in a dungeon, hat he takes a lot mroe damage than any other Tank.

YOu can use 2-3 TBN per trash pull, which equals to 75% health , compare that to Bloodwhetting which not only gives you 10% mitigation and heals you for ~300% health on each use.

The absolute last thing I want on DRK is a bloodwhetting equivalent.

[Arohk]

The absolute last thing I want on DRK is a bloodwhetting equivalent.

You have that, its called Abyssal Drain (but its trash), because you need to use it for DPS instead of keeping it for healing.

[Zairava]

You have that, its called Abyssal Drain (but its trash), because you need to use it for DPS instead of keeping it for healing.

I don't see Abyssal Drain granting mit and a shield. The burst window is very open to what order you press your oGCD's, you can absolutely time it better for healing, even if it overheals you.

I had to at least rub 2 brain cells together to properly DA+AD back in stormblood.

[Terhix]

You have that, its called Abyssal Drain (but its trash), because you need to use it for DPS instead of keeping it for healing.

Which is why Abyssal Drain needs a buff and having its cooldown decoupled, and Bloodwhetting needs a nerf, TBN is fine.

[Ramiee]

TBN is not mitigation, it is a shield.
You can see that every time you have a Dark knight as a Tank in a dungeon, that he takes a lot more damage than any other Tank.

YOu can use 2-3 TBN per trash pull, which equals to 75% health , compare that to Bloodwhetting which not only gives you 10% mitigation and heals you for ~300% health on each use.

If only there was a way to fix this without changing TBN sadly its impossible to make AD into a spell, give phys resistance to Dark mind and missionary and Oblation stronger. Also using Bloodwhetting as an arguement for balance in dungeons of all things is very funny.
Wow DRK takes too much damage if only there was a person playing a role in the dungeon/raid you are doing whose main purpose is to deal with that, its a shame those dont exist i guess.

[PyurBlue]

TBN is not mitigation, it is a shield.

Which is fine. It absorbs damage, like mitigation does. It also has the advantage of being able to block status effects because it's a shield and it's nice to use as a buffer for HP based healing like Essential Dignity because it allows the tank to remain low on HP without taking damage so that a good tank/healer combo can more easily maximize HP dependent healing gains.

YOu can use 2-3 TBN per trash pull, which equals to 75% health , compare that to Bloodwhetting which not only gives you 10% mitigation and heals you for ~300% health on each use.

The problem in this case isn't TBN.

[revan08566]

TBN is not mitigation, it is a shield.
You can see that every time you have a Dark knight as a Tank in a dungeon, that he takes a lot more damage than any other Tank.

YOu can use 2-3 TBN per trash pull, which equals to 75% health , compare that to Bloodwhetting which not only gives you 10% mitigation and heals you for ~300% health on each use.

This is the most logical summarization. And by the third usage, the pack is close enough to dead that the shield has expires before it breaks. Even pairing it with oblation doesn't help much. Honestly, oblation could just be another reprisal and tbn could cause a stun or slow. There's potential to make it better. GNBs 25s got a great buff. And I like the shadow wall change, but other things just need to be better

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Yep youre right, remove TBN and put a shield on Oblation and give it at level 70. Tanks clearly can't have anything unique anymore or any rewards for good mitigation, just do your 1-2-3 combo and spender forever.

*chants* One of us!

Also...for those talking about Homogenization...Pssst. Delrium=Requistcat...