Is it time for enrage timers in normal content?

[Bonoki]

We literally used to have enrages in normal content. You almost never saw them.

That's kind of the point though, they were so late into the fight that it was the same as not having them at all. It was extra dev resources allocated to something that wasn't benefitting anyone from it. If you survived so long that you saw enrage, the party likely disbanded the very next pull. Let people clear and be on their way.

[Supersomething]

We have come full circle to people requesting ARR style content again. This forum really is something else.

[kajv95]

I am a proponent for bringing back enrage timers in normal content in the same way they used to be implemented; a.k.a nobody ever saw them but it atleast punishes trying to bring an entire party over a finish line they shouldn't be crossing.

Most of you don't even know old content has these, and no, this does not increase dev time. They already have the attacks worked out for savages and extremes. Just use those.

[Turtledeluxe]

I'll be blunt:
It won't get better after the 4th or 5th wipe, so if the boss is at 25% HP or below you might as well do it yourself.

Is there a reason these threads are exclusively about tanks? You're all just the fight experts, huh? Give me a break.

[Reinha]

Just healed a DT dungeon, Warrior had 9 Vulnerability Up and was still going strong. If I stand in 1 yellow I lose big chunk of my HP, but Tank only lost small HP (which they can regen themselves fast). So either Tank needs a fix or bring the enrage.

Lmao I bet that Warrior is the type to tell others to stop dying to mechanics.

[Saraide]

Lmao I bet that Warrior is the type to tell others to stop dying to mechanics.

Playing the game on very easy and telling others to play better is a timeless classic.

[Reimmi]

I get wanting to prevent some tanks from holding the rest of the party hostage because they're selfish jerks, so a system that clocks them out whether they like it or not to remind them it's a team fight sounds nice.

But... this is kinda running counter to that whole "we're not asking to make game harder to push out casuals" argument we were having a few days ago by trying to turn normal content into "hardcore lite" by implementing mechanics from Extreme/Savage/Ultimate/etc.

I don't think its unreasonable to have a enrage after like 12 minutes of a fight. I think players should learn to play the game personally, it's a bit insulting to the intelligence of players if they can be ressed 50 times in a fight and drug along the finish line

[Talianore]

what if instead of weird shit like that they just gave everyone the ability to raise in normal content.

imagine

Add enrage times, give everyone a raise, all these suggestions - but the problem is really that tank sustain is too powerful and needs to be adjusted down.

After all, you don't see healers or dps keeping groups hostages in this manner.

[bp_isa_ff]

Queuing as the blue role for free immortality isn’t an expression of skill honey

Say you've never even looked at Dark Knight without saying you haven't looked at Dark Knight.

[Supersnow845]

Say you've never even looked at Dark Knight without saying you haven't looked at Dark Knight.

If you think DRK doesn’t have incredibly strong survivability when you actually use its skills just tells me you think broken overpowered heals is what count as tank defensives

It’s not hard to solo a boss on a DRK especially now they have a massive excog on their 2 minutes and they still have the inbuilt advantage of 80% damage down, 1.8* the HP and a boatload of defensives like all tanks